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Ok so weve been out and ended up with a fluval roma 125 tank, now just need to sort out a base for it, where we are putting it is just below a main window so I dont want it sticking ip above the window ledge so it will need to be raised about 12".
Any ideas for a base anyone ?
The fish my wife is planning to add are assorted Malawi's (Cichlids) so we should be able to get a few in this size tank hopefully.
Any ideas for a base anyone ?
The fish my wife is planning to add are assorted Malawi's (Cichlids) so we should be able to get a few in this size tank hopefully.
Well gave in and bought the proper stand and changed where we were having the tank.
Its now in filled and stocked with ornaments and plants and Fishless cycle started.
Looks pretty good, I hope to have some pictures up soon
And thought I would give the mrs some ideas of what fish to add
Dog Fish ?
Its now in filled and stocked with ornaments and plants and Fishless cycle started.
Looks pretty good, I hope to have some pictures up soon
And thought I would give the mrs some ideas of what fish to add
Dog Fish ?
Hi, Mrs Tybs here, really excited about seeing my tank coming alive. Well, the plants are looking ok even though the odd one has tried to escape. As you can see I decided against the Bi Orb, stylish but not really fish friendly is it? We are thinking Guppies, Mollys, Barbs, Cory Catfish for stock. Thanks for all you advise so far, it has been much needed and appreciated. 
angel-al
Fish Fanatic
cardinal tetras and rummy nose are beautiful fish especially if you have a big shoal of them
I love the cardinal tetras would they be ok with the others as they are so small? Read conflicting things on different websites
Great to see you went for a decent sized tank!
What method of fishless cycling are you planning on?
I would honestly avoid malawis in a 125 litre tank. They do get quite big and need to be really packed in to spread the aggression out. Plus they massively limit what else you can have in the tank, due to their aggression levels, their need for lots of rock work and their need for a high pH. There are plenty of smaller cichlids if you want to go down that route, though.
Check out:
* Bolivian rams
* German blue rams (picky about water but worth a look)
* Kribensis (and related species)
* Apistogrammas
* Shell dwelling cichlids
Some of them are even community compatible!
If you go for a community or some peaceful cichlids, cardinals would be a great option! However, they should really be added after the tank has had 3-6 months to mature after being cycled. They, like neon tetras and some other species, have a strange habit of just not thriving in young set-ups and much prefer a fully mature and cycled tank.
What method of fishless cycling are you planning on?
I would honestly avoid malawis in a 125 litre tank. They do get quite big and need to be really packed in to spread the aggression out. Plus they massively limit what else you can have in the tank, due to their aggression levels, their need for lots of rock work and their need for a high pH. There are plenty of smaller cichlids if you want to go down that route, though.
Check out:
* Bolivian rams
* German blue rams (picky about water but worth a look)
* Kribensis (and related species)
* Apistogrammas
* Shell dwelling cichlids
Some of them are even community compatible!
If you go for a community or some peaceful cichlids, cardinals would be a great option! However, they should really be added after the tank has had 3-6 months to mature after being cycled. They, like neon tetras and some other species, have a strange habit of just not thriving in young set-ups and much prefer a fully mature and cycled tank.
Assaye
Thanks again for the tips, Mrs Tybs has been reading up and is now going to avoid the Malawis, and go for more commons breeds see below, as for Fishless Cycle if the inserted picture below works that is what she is doing.
And its intersting what you have said about the Tetra's ! We shall certainly look into that more
The Tyb's Fishless Cycle
Are you adding ammonia to the tank at all, or just using the cycle product?
If the latter, that won't work. "Cycle" doesn't contain the necessary bacteria to establish the tank for you (and even if it did they would all die from lack of food) and it doesn't contain enough organic matter to replicate the ammonia that is needed to cycle a tank. It also takes about a month (or longer) to cycle a tank, irrespective of organic additives, simply because that is how long it takes to get you from zero bacteria to enough bacteria to handle fish.
Rasboras need to be in groups of 6 or more, like tetras and corys benefit from the larger groups as well.
116 inches of adult fish in a 27 gallon tank is a lot. We generally work on 1" per gallon for new fishkeepers with community tanks. It doesn't work for all fish but it's the best basic guide for your standard community set up. Seriously, don't add 18 mollies. Have 4 or something. 18 4 inch fish with a standard filtration system will be miserable in that tank. Also make sure you have all the same sex or 2-3 females per male. If you have a mix of sexes you need to understock the tank in order to make room for all the babies they'll have.
Here is our guide for new fishkeepers. Have a red - there is an extensive section on cycling and also a page on stocking guides for tanks.
If the latter, that won't work. "Cycle" doesn't contain the necessary bacteria to establish the tank for you (and even if it did they would all die from lack of food) and it doesn't contain enough organic matter to replicate the ammonia that is needed to cycle a tank. It also takes about a month (or longer) to cycle a tank, irrespective of organic additives, simply because that is how long it takes to get you from zero bacteria to enough bacteria to handle fish.
Rasboras need to be in groups of 6 or more, like tetras and corys benefit from the larger groups as well.
116 inches of adult fish in a 27 gallon tank is a lot. We generally work on 1" per gallon for new fishkeepers with community tanks. It doesn't work for all fish but it's the best basic guide for your standard community set up. Seriously, don't add 18 mollies. Have 4 or something. 18 4 inch fish with a standard filtration system will be miserable in that tank. Also make sure you have all the same sex or 2-3 females per male. If you have a mix of sexes you need to understock the tank in order to make room for all the babies they'll have.
Here is our guide for new fishkeepers. Have a red - there is an extensive section on cycling and also a page on stocking guides for tanks.
Assaye, thank you for your advice, clearly I mistook my gallons for litres.....doh!it was late when I was putting it together. Could have been a serious error although I would like to think my aquatic dealer would have laughed and stopped me buying 116 fish! 
As I was working through my list they all appeared to be better in groups so got lazy with my spreadsheet not realising it would be for public consumption 
I don't recall this amount of preparation for my human babies! Nevertheless, I am eager to get it right so am happy to wait as long as it takes. We havn't added ammonia although we have read about adding it, not sure what quantity to add.
As I was working through my list they all appeared to be better in groups so got lazy with my spreadsheet not realising it would be for public consumption I don't recall this amount of preparation for my human babies! Nevertheless, I am eager to get it right so am happy to wait as long as it takes. We havn't added ammonia although we have read about adding it, not sure what quantity to add.Assaye, thank you for your advice, clearly I mistook my gallons for litres.....doh!it was late when I was putting it together. Could have been a serious error although I would like to think my aquatic dealer would have laughed and stopped me buying 116 fish!
There is an excellent post in the resource centre that I linked =)
And you'd be surprised what your aquatic dealer might let you do =P oh the horror stories!
I cycle with ammonia to 4-5ppm. I do an add daily method with daily water tests to check ammonia levels and then adding enough ammonia to top up to 4-5 ppm. Some use an add and wait method. It's up to you - have a read and see what you think.
The ammonia thread made me laugh, don't think we'll be doing the "natural" process. Hubby has ammonia from his modelling hobby so will check it is the right one and give it ago. Having read some of the links it is all starting to make sense. Certainly been hoodwinked by a sales assistant or two but we are now getting wiser so they best beware! 
Ammonia added and sitting around 4.0.
Rethought the stock, would 6 varied mollys be happy?
Guppies x 2
Neon Tetra x 6
Black Molly (M)x 1
Dalmation Molly (F) x 2
Silver Molly (F)x 2
Corydoras Catfish x 3
Your thoughts would be appreciated.
Rethought the stock, would 6 varied mollys be happy?
Guppies x 2
Neon Tetra x 6
Black Molly (M)x 1
Dalmation Molly (F) x 2
Silver Molly (F)x 2
Corydoras Catfish x 3
Your thoughts would be appreciated.
Even mine ?
helen1207
Fish Fanatic
Hello mr and mrs tybs..just looking through the forum as im new on here as well and came upon your pic of the tank with your 2 dogs! I almost fell off my chair and had to call my partner over to see...your dogs are identical to mine!!..a westie and a wheaten cairn!..Helen (sorry i will keep to talking about fish! 
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