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I was looking for ways to get my plants to grow faster, and I know CO2 helps and I came across this website <a href="http://www.thekrib.com/Plants/CO2/co2-narten.html" target="_blank">http://www.thekrib.com/Plants/CO2/co2-narten.html</a>
Has anyone else tried this before? I'm just curious to see if this works as well as other CO2 injection methods.


Yeast base CO2 is used by many people, the only draw back is that it's extreamly hard to keep a stable level going into the tanks and it tends to have issues regarding algae growth. You can also buy pre made canisters that you can add your own mix to... nutrafin tends to be the most popular brand people use :)
 
I use the Nutrafin on my 130L Clearseal aquarium, the tank is on the back wall of the living room and receives direct sunlight from the window. I have never had an algae problem in this tank.

See photy below:-

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If i can make out right then heavily planted tanks , are less prone to algae anyways, i presume all the nutrients are eaten up by the plants themselves and not leaving any for algae to take up and therefore not be able to form, less heavily planted tanks with unstable CO2 (light pendant) will or possibly will casue algae growth ......or this is what im lead to believe anyways lol :p
 
If i can make out right then heavily planted tanks , are less prone to algae anyways, i presume all the nutrients are eaten up by the plants themselves and not leaving any for algae to take up and therefore not be able to form, less heavily planted tanks with unstable CO2 (light pendant) will or possibly will casue algae growth ......or this is what im lead to believe anyways lol :p


Agreed, I did some heavy pruning on this tank about 2 weeks ago and managed to get enough plants for my 3rd tank!!!
 
So it looks like I'm gonna be looking into the Nutrafin canister. The plants in my 10 gallon are doing great, but the one's in my 30 gallon could use a little help. Thanks guys!
 
Algae is caused by a variety of factors. The most common culprits seem to be unstable CO2 levels, CO2 levels that are not appropriate to your lighting levels, lack of good tank circulation, and small ammonia spikes, with the unstable CO2 playing a more indirect role. It isn't low CO2, it's unstable CO2, which explains why some non CO2 tanks can be algae-free too. The ammonia spikes are quite small, not at the level toxic to fish. Notice I didn't say excess nutrients. That theory, along with certain types of algae being caused by high phosporus and iron, seems to have been put to bed. At least with regard to planted tanks. It made sense a while back, but with people pumping copious amounts of Nitrogen, phosphorus, Potassium, and other nutrients into their tanks and experiencing no algae if the CO2 levels were stable, people had to think of another reason. I apologize, as this is extremely general. Recently, obtaining stable CO2 levels (whether they are low or high) has been gaining more importance, out-weighing light levels in some circumstances. It's quite neat. I've been doing some reading. :D

I have used the Nutrafin CO2 system with great success. I throw away the activator and yeast packets and make my own recipe using the following.

1 cup of sugar
1/2 tsp of yeast (I usually buy just a jar of yeast, it is usually better quality than the packets)

I don't need to use bicarbonate as I have a high kH in my tapwater, but others use it to prevent the yeast from bubbling into the tubing which produces a kind of icky white stuff. I will often hook two canisters to one difusor and alternate canisters to get more stable CO2.

You can use CO2 in high-light tanks or in low-light tanks. For low-light tanks, high levels of CO2 are not as crucial, you won't need 50ppm, but the CO2 does allow for faster growth.

Hope this helps a bit.

llj
 
i made a couple last week using a 2L coke bottle with 2,3rds cup of sugar warm water and 2 teaspoons of dried yeast from tesco's 62p a tub then put a air line from the top of the bottle through a hole in the cap and glued in place to form a perfect seal then ran the line to the bottom of another normal coke bottle (small) sealed it added water half full to filter the throth from the yeast mix and then the same as the first bottle but the open end of the last piece of airline went into my sump and bubbled co2 oh i also had a airline manifold to regulate the bubbles but it does fuctuate with pressure sometimes anyway it works and i have noticed a massive improvment in plant growth on condition but i think you are better off buying a propper setup really because it doesn't last that long and you always have that risk of the yeast mixture getting in your tank and you don't really want that lol
 
Wow that did help a lot. So making your own formula is better than the packets they give you?
and mixmaster jay, I was thinking about making my own canister from a 2 liter, but It sounds like its a little more complicated than I'm willing to take on right now! lol
 
I just got back from Petsmart and they had the Nutrafin system, It was Origionally $34.95 but I got it on sale for $10.89 :hyper:
So now I just need to set it up and mix up the yeast formula! :good:
 
but i think you are better off buying a propper setup really because it doesn't last that long and you always have that risk of the yeast mixture getting in your tank and you don't really want that lol

If you have two canisters, you can alternate them and get a more stable mix.

llj
 
If you have two canisters, you can alternate them and get a more stable mix.

that still doesnt get it stable because its not a constant pressure it releases built up pressure so the rate is constantly fluctuating so you can never really get it balanced very well as it is contsantly changing bubble rates and pressures so they are good but not relliable plus you would be almost constantly playing with it to get them flowing fluently, i did try this and that was my thought exactly but its not reliable enough to do it
 
If you have two canisters, you can alternate them and get a more stable mix.

that still doesnt get it stable because its not a constant pressure it releases built up pressure so the rate is constantly fluctuating so you can never really get it balanced very well as it is contsantly changing bubble rates and pressures so they are good but not relliable plus you would be almost constantly playing with it to get them flowing fluently, i did try this and that was my thought exactly but its not reliable enough to do it

It perhaps wouldn't be reliable for a high-light tank, but for a low-light, it is adaquate. You can also play with gang valves to get good pressure, or so I've heard. I have never actually done this. Never needed to and I will admit, it was a hassle getting my CO2 levels stable when I did DIY with my high-tech. Oh, I definitely recommend pressurized for high light. It doesn't hurt low light either, but with low-light you don't need to have as much CO2 in the first place and DIY is okay. The plants will have enough for their needs in the lower light.

We can debate this until we are blue in the face, and I agree with under certain circumstances for sure, but we won't know anything until we know a little bit more about this tank.

Kelsyann! I need some information from you. :)

1. Size of tank
2. Wattage and type of lighting
3. Filter type and if you can get it gph (gallons per hour) flow.
4. How long has it been setup
5. Substrate

That may help clear up things. Otherwise Mixmaster jay and I will continue to debate CO2 without even knowing your specific requirements! :lol: We're both right, so this could be a long night.

llj
 
well i was using a 4 way manifold with it so i could increase and decrease pressures as i please or just set it at a specific rate but because of the pressure fluctuations it would either go too slow/stop/ or go mental lol you could set it at 10 bubbles per min and look 10 mins later it either stopped or gone mad so all im saying is you can't get a constant pressure or rate through out the life of the mixture
also it gets blocked with the foam too sometimes

all this worked in my 825L halide lit tank and my standard light fry tank just on a smaller scale lol but not really worth the hassle of constantly messing with it to get it to how you want it
 
Sorry! should've cleared that up earlier!
Size: 30 gallons
Lighting: 25 watt flourscent tube light that came with the hood
Filter: 2xTetra Whisper 20i filter GPH: 125 each, so 250?
Substrate: play sand from Toys R' Us
The tank has been set up 4 months, but cycled for the first month, so I guess you could say it's been established for 3.5 months.

Hope this helped! let me know if you need further info!
 

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