Has Anyone Had Any Problems With

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boots ammonia?

iv got the one with the blue cross, household cleaner one,
it says the only ingredients is ammonia,

but ive been cycling for over 30days, the ammonia gets stuck at 1.5ppm and still not a trace of nitRItes?, and only about 2.5ppm of nitRAtes
 
I cant see anything that would be causing it to stall, it may be one of the cases where it takes longer than normal to kick in.

Have you done any water changes at all during the fishless cycle?

Andy
 
i ranup to about 23 days while still stuck at 1.5, rabbut gave me loads of advice and suggested starting again, so i sis and also took the ship out which had paint peel

i also got some mature media off rabbut but has not made a slight bit of difference
 
Agree with Andy and rabbut, can't see anything being done wrong here given the info. I would tend to agree with the action taken on rabbuts advice, to try a startover more or less and its ashame that hasn't seemed to kick things off.

I tend to try and remind myself in these kinds of situations that the little bacteria are living creatures and perhaps there could be situations among the dozens or hundreds of substances we *don't* measure in the water that might kill them off or discourage them from growing. That and the fact that nothing guarantees there could be a situation where the two species we want are simply in very short supply for some reason in that particular water at that time. I've always though it rather amazing that they seem to be so universally available to begin with!

I'm sure its extra frustrating as you've tried the good amounts of mature media (if I'm remembering right?) and that hasn't seemed to work either! I guess if we're getting short on ideas its always a good time to say that sometimes just being very hard and determined to try over and over, on and on, may sometimes be the eventual key to success even if one doesn't know what finally changed (many things being quite invisible to us in situations like this!)

One other thing I can think of is that you are in the UK I believe and there was a member (chrissi?) or someone who recently posted about having a local maidenhead aquatics (trying to remember off the top of my head) that seemed to be successfully doing the challanging thing of getting in new supplies of refridgerated bottled bacteria from the company that bought the company that financed Hovanec (sorry this is not clear, can't remember the product name)... well anyway, our discussion went on about how this seemed to be the successor to the old biospira and/or bactinette products that sometimes worked if the entire supply chain stayed refridgerated. So anyway, my thought was maybe somebody could scrounge up that thread for you and you could determine whether that particular maidenhead place happened to be a driveable distance from you in the UK perchance.

~~waterdrop~~
 
Thanks for the advice WD, maidenhead is well too far of a drive, iv done a strip down in the tank,
im just goin to leave it and just test ammonia nighlty till it goes to 0

Rabbut is a good lad i got my mature media off him, and he works PT in a LFS so he must know his stuff :good:
 

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