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I have 6 harlaquin ( spelt right ??? , i dunno ) today i have found one has dead and i dont know what i have done wrong !
I have had trouble in the past but now i thought i was doing well !

i have checked water quality and here are the results : PH = 7.6
Nitrate = 40/80
Nitrite = 0.25
Ammonia = 0


I have noticed another harlaquin ( looks like white spots over him ) but i am not 100 % sure !
I have added general Tonic to the tank after i have made a 25% water change.

What have i done ?
Please help before anymore die !
 
These are the most sensitive fish i have owned out of about, gosh, say 30 or 40 species of fish? Perhaps i been unlucky, the ones i do have are doing really well now

I would imagine they could quite easily kark it with Nitrite being 0.25

I have lost more Harlequins than any other fish, regardless of where i got them from, i put 10 into a fully mature planted tank about 7-8 weeks ago i think, where all fish were stable, loads of tetras etc, i got 5 left now

I think Nitrite + Harlequins always going to mean problems, it might look low (0.25) but if its 0.25 thats high in my books, anything over 0.1 is high in my books
 
so how do i get the nitrite down ?
i have changed 25% tonight ? do i keep changing water daily for a while ???
 
What i would do, might not be what others would do, but me personally, if the Nitrite is 0.25.........

1. Use mature filter media from another tank to boost bio-capacity of nitrite problem tank (if this is your only tank, you dont have this option!)

2. Stop feeding for time being, perhaps 2-3 days, reduces the work the (already probably poor performing) filter has to do

3. Keep testing daily

3. Carry on with water changes, i advocate quite aggressive water changes if you have nitrite or ammonia present, more aggressive water changes than some peeps go for, i suggest 25% daily in your case, until it gets closer to 0.1 ( or less dark colour than current reading on test kit), make sure water is de-chlorinated

any idea why there is Nitrite readings in your tank?
 
It might be over feeding ( but i dont know, i dont think its that but what else can it be ? )

Thanks fry_lover for the helpful advise !
 
It might be over feeding ( but i dont know, i dont think its that but what else can it be ? )

Thanks fry_lover for the helpful advise !

Could easily be over feeding, that'll do it. Not exlusively, but over feeding is a common culprit

I now use JBL Nitrite test kit which shows up Nitrite from as low as 0.05 mg/l when a lot of other kits, the first reading on the chart is 0.25mg/l, so i can usually see if one of my tanks has even a TINY bit nitrite (i.e. some low level recorded). I test all the time, not becuase i am worried, but because i just like testing at least twice per week (sad i know LOL). But also i learn from it as well, i mean, in my Malawi tank last week (because i have some fry in there - which isnt a good excuse for what i done) but i fed a bit too much, i put pellets in water to soak for a bit then added to tank so they "broke down" easier for the fry, but there was particles EVERYWHERE and i thought "too much food". Next day the Nitrite reading was in-between 0.05 and 0.1 mg/l as opposed to usual 0.0

It was only 0.05 to 0.1 because this tank has x2 mature Eheim 2028 externals, and i am also currently "cycling" a Fluval 4+ internal in there, that is probably 50% mature now. if i had put that food into a tank without such filtration, i am sure the Nitrite reading would have been 0.25mg or even more. I over fed basically. And because it all was tiny particles i couldn't exactly put the net in and fish out the excess food!!!

If you were really religious with your nitrite and nitrate testing you will often see a direct corelation between amount of food going into tank and nitrite and nitrate levels (if over feeding, i.e. the amount of over feeding would have a good relation to the reading scores), this can also be true of the snail population in tank, not always, but sometimes, i.e. more snails if over feeding and often snails getting out of control is sometimes (not always) directly due to over-feeding.

People might say test kits are unreliable, but my JBL nitrite seems good in that if i ever over feed or i have a filter problem (not too long ago a plug come out on my of filters in another tank over night) the JBL Nitrite kit will detect even the slightest rise in Nitrite, these tiny nitrite readings can often give you a good "heads up" in terms of whats happening in your tank (feeding wise and the state of the biological filtration)
 
How many gallons is the tank.
How many fish and which type.
How long has the tank been set up.
Harlequins like most fish are very sensitive to water quality a nitrite reading of 25 can soon kill a fish, even a nitrite reading of 03 can be fatal.
Water changes and increased aeration.
What fish do you have as salt can help.
 
Update : I have lost a Female Bristlenosed cat fish today !
I have done a 25% water change again and i have removed the body !
Once the water has cycled abit i will test the water again !


I have a AquaOne 500 which is a 65 L tank !
I have a undergravel filter which was included in the tank !

I have 5 harlaquins / 10 neon tetra / 1 remaining catfish / 2 opapline gouramis !


Sad week ! :-( :-( :-(
 
No salt then as you have cat fish.Just water changes and plenty of aeration till you get a reading of 0.Good luck.Your tank was overstocked.
 
over stocked ? do you think it was that over stocked enough to kill ?
i have lost one cat fish yesterday night and i have a neon tetra alive but on the bottom ( on its side ) and i have a missing harlequin !

so 4 fish i have lost !

checked nitrite this morning and its at 0 !!
now its 0 will tyhe nitrite still have effects on them ?
 
Being overstocked will cause water chemistry problems yes. If your filter doesnt have the capacity to hold the bacteria needed to convert (Nitrabacter) or something like that, then yes.

If you have 0 nitrite and 0 ammonia you should be fine now. I would keep an eye on your stats though, as if you have high ammonia, that will eventually be converted into Nitrite again.
 
so has i have had high nitrite will the fish continue to die ( even tho i have nitrite at 0 now !
i still cant find my missing harlequin !

Hopefully i wont loose any more !
Tropical tanks can be hard to maintain ! i am a tropical fish beginner !
thanks for the reply spooky ! ( your not spooky from FFOC are you ? )
 
Bad water quality can cause a lot of damage to fish so to be honest time will tell.
Good luck.
 

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