Guppies-Endlers ?

[basboi85]

So I've seen pics on here of people showing pics of their fish saying they are endlers and mine look remarkably simular. What do you guys think ???

So are these endlers or just guppies ???

 

[Alm0stAwesome]

Both! They are a cross between the two

 

[basboi85]

Ahhh cool is that a bad or good thing ???

I'll try and get better pics of them I've got 4 males and 3 females left out of 20 odd as I gave them to my neighbours grandson
Its just the males with the colours and the females are plain is that normal ???

 

[Alm0stAwesome]

Ummm, well it is what it is! If guppies and endlers are kept together they will cross breed. There are a lot of crosses out there and many feel that there are very very few pure endlers out there anymore which is a shame. I personally feel that guppies and endlers shouldn't be allowed to breed, though the result is very pretty. I only feel this way because it would be a real shame if endlers slowly disappeared. That's not your fault though and they are certianly very nice little fishies

Yep it's normal for the females to have no colours

 

[4seasons]

Its just the males with the colours and the females are plain is that normal ???

Yep the males are smaller and have color and the females are larger with no bright color.
My LFS sells these endler/guppy hybrids as feeder fish. I have bought two batches of them to keep.

 

[basboi85]

Thing is a couple of my males have flowing dorsal fins and the others are normal so to speak like in the photo I'll try and get some decent photos of them all but every time I go near the tank all my fish think its feeding time greedy buggers lol

 

[Alm0stAwesome]

[sup]yeah I think that's fairly typical with the crosses some traits come through and some don't [/sup]

 

[guppyrookie]

THAT IS A VERY NICE CAMERA, WHAT DID YOU USE?

What kind of camera did you use? It's beautiful.

 

[basboi85]

THAT IS A VERY NICE CAMERA, WHAT DID YOU USE?

What kind of camera did you use? It's beautiful.

if your asking me what camera it was a

apple iphone 4s
used a app called action shot as takes multi pics bursts but has option to make pic of to paste certain parts of multi pics to see say a fish moving from one side of a tank to the other in one picture but in theory its 10 but final product is one pic as we can all garantee as soon as you press that button the fish will move.

and then i used another app called snapseed which is a app that helps touch up any pics you take

 

[basboi85]

Well I tried to get a decent picture of that guppie-endler I said about and could only manage 2 pics

 

[Alm0stAwesome]

Yep, deffo a cross. The ones with longer fins are more guppy than endler I would say. The bigger the fish and it's fins are the more toward the guppy end of the spectrum it is. The smaller the fish and fins are the closer to the endler side it is Sometimes they will have the size and fins of an endler but will have different body colours which lets you know there's regular guppy in there too

 

[OldMan47]

Your fish are simple wild type guppies. They look a lot like the ones that I kept back in the 1950s.

 

[basboi85]

Your fish are simple wild type guppies. They look a lot like the ones that I kept back in the 1950s.

Does that make them a purer guppy old man ??!

 

[OldMan47]

It means that they are guppies that have not been inbred enough to fix any particular color or tail patterns that we often associate with modern guppies. All guppies are "pure" in the sense that they are derived from Poecilia reticulata that were once wild. Pure endlers are simply endlers, Poecilia wingei, with no guppy in their background. The things that pet shops call endlers are most often a cross between a guppy and an endler. To my way of thinking they are a pure waste of tank space but to each his own.

The difference between a modern guppy and a wild guppy has nothing to do with crossing outside the species, it is more a case of selecting the fish that show the characteristic that you find interesting and want to preserve in the next generation.

 

[helterskelter]

I agree with oldman.
these are wild/through back guppies. Nothing indicates endler to me looking at them.

Shops are calling short finned guppies, endlers so that they can sell them.