Gravel Cleaner

to be honest if it cleans gravel it will do!!! i just use a standard 1 cant remeber wot its called but its just a hollow tube with a pipe on the end and works fine i think u can get these from most LFS at around £8-£10

hope this helps

jen
 
Can anyone recommend a good gravel cleaner? I have seen a few but not sure what to get.
Are you asking about Python-type tube siphones or the stay-in-tank filter/recycle types?

The python type ones are the ones ive been looking at.They any good?

Pythons are great if you do water changes to multiple or large tanks. It has saved me a lot of back ache and time. They are expensive and I have had to spend more money on add ons as I have a 55g tank and the standard 25 ft kit was not enough. It was complicated to use the first time but you learn it fast. I bought the little syphon attachment, extra hose and I need a longer vaccum attachment but I do not take the water out w/ my python so I'm good there for now. All I do is add the clean water w/ my python. I'd say it is worth the money. Other wise if you are doing a small tank or two I highly recommend biorb vaccums. They are a good size. very easy to use, work well and have the fish stopper on the nozzel that sucks up the water which is awesome. I clean my 55g tank and all my small tanks with it.

You can find the biord vaccum on this site: http://www.tropicalfishstore.com/supplies-biorb.htm
 
OK, Python ones... Well, I can tell you my experience but it might not be typical (& probably too detailed and picky like many of my posts :D assuming I even have time to type anything in before going back to being chief dish washer and van driver...)

I started investigating this product after searching and seeing many positive reviews here on TFF. My only available sink faucets were kind of weird brands and the Python support people told me it wouldn't work as they didn't have an adapter for my make of faucet. I finally decided I didn't think that was correct, so risked a few bucks to buy the brass adaptor and it turned out to fit my faucet just fine. I then got the whole product with the gravel cleaner and a long tube that goes down the hall to the bathroom and a green tee valve that lets it drain or fill your tank.

The two huge, wonderful things here are the long hose idea (because years ago I was just too stupid to ever think of simply having a long siphon tube that could reach a tub, duh!) and the valve that can switch between drain and fill. Well, for me, the first idea (which anyone could do just by buying a long hose) turned out to be the most solid help. Whereas the second idea I use a little, but not most of the time.

Most of the time I just put the gravel cleaner end in the tank, run the other end out to the flower garden and just suck on it to start the siphon. Then I clean some gravel as it drains. One thing I -do- like about the Python product line is that its easy to buy different size and length gravel cleaning tubes and everything fits together nicely.

Then, when its time to refill the tank, I just screw the brass adapter into the sink faucet and start running tap water directly back into the tank, adjusting the temp to a rough match. Note: in my case I'm quite comfortable with the water that comes out of my hot water heater being ok, but some don't like this and therefor don't want to use a mixing tap for their refills - personnally I have no problem with it. I put half my needed amount of Prime dechlor into the tank near the beginning of the refill and the other half at the end (just to copy RDD :) ) Its nice to be able to just stop the tap at various levels if I want to play with plants or scrub tank walls. I sometimes still use a small bucket for the final topping up after I've put the hose away.

Overall I judge it to be a huge simplifier of the water change process. But then I was pretty stupid and clueless about how I did those operations years ago, lugging lots of heavy buckets.

Now, since I've been doing this, I'm not sure the power of the siphon pull is quite as much as I'd like. I can get a fairly decent churn of the gravel inside the clear gravel cleaner tube and most of the time this is good enough. There are times though when I find myself thinking that a closed water cycle system would be nice - there's a video of one that some guy patented out there on the net - one of these deals where a powerhead creates more sucking churn in the tube-head and then the cloudy water runs back through a poly filter before returning to the tank. I'm sure I could devise one but it would no doubt be cumbersome...

~~waterdrop~~
 
I think i would go with the python if i had a larger tank but since its only an 80L tank and i would have to change my faucet il have to look for an alternative are the battery ones with the bag on them any good
 
i just use a hose pipe, drain the water out of the tank and onto the garden, then pop the end of the hose onto the garden tap and fill water back up into the tank...... easy peasy and significantly cheaper than a python!
 
As some of you know im doing a fishless cycle and i have alot of algae in my gravel any ideas on how to get rid of it
 

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