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What country is that because sadly we have no fish cruelty laws, but your fish cruelty laws sound pretty harsh.
Romania wanted to add a weird law against fish cruelty:
Not sure if they mentioned the size of the tank, but what they wanted was that the tank should have OPAQUE walls. What's the whole point of keeping fish in an opaque aquarium then?
 
What??!! What would be the point of an aquarium?
 
What??!! What would be the point of an aquarium?
That's the reason that law didn't pass.

That supposed law was made by the European Union for Romania, or so I've heard. The reason for the opaque walls: they claimed that having transparent walls stresses the fish as they see movement outside.
But that could have major cons.
You wouldn't be able to see if your fish are fine or have wounds or if they get along.
You wouldn't be able to interact with them if you have some friendly fish that will come at the wall after you and such.
You wouldn't know if you've cleaned it well enough as all you'd be able to see is the top.

However, other laws have passed that require shocking livestock to death instead of the traditional hitting to the head with an axe. Another way is drugging the animal. I don't know what to say about these two, as I'd think the animal suffers much more by getting shocked to death than getting a full blow to the head or at least getting shot in the head.
As for the drugs, I don't know if it's a good thing for the humans that will eat the meat of those farm animals. Won't they eat the drugs too?
 
In Finland the laws about keeping animals are the same, no matter what the animal is. So, you can't keep fishes in tanks that are too small for them, it would be like keeping a cat in a cardboard box for it's whole life. Or never letting a horse out.

No fish are allowed in a tank under 40 liters, 40 is the very minimum. Only snails and shrimps are accepted in nanos. Fish have to be kept in a tank which is both big enough and the water conditions are good for them. So, for example, keeping three goldfish in 100 liter tank is reaaally bad.

I don't find a strict laws about animal safety a bad thing at all! :p

That Romanian thingy sounds a bit odd. Yes, the fish could feel more safe, but if all of the walls are like that, it's not a good thing. It's recommended though that there was at least one wall in the aquarium where you can't see through. The most of us have one.
 
In Finland the laws about keeping animals are the same, no matter what the animal is. So, you can't keep fishes in tanks that are too small for them, it would be like keeping a cat in a cardboard box for it's whole life. Or never letting a horse out.

No fish are allowed in a tank under 40 liters, 40 is the very minimum. Only snails and shrimps are accepted in nanos. Fish have to be kept in a tank which is both big enough and the water conditions are good for them. So, for example, keeping three goldfish in 100 liter tank is reaaally bad.

I don't find a strict laws about animal safety a bad thing at all! :p

That Romanian thingy sounds a bit odd. Yes, the fish could feel more safe, but if all of the walls are like that, it's not a good thing. It's recommended though that there was at least one wall in the aquarium where you can't see through. The most of us have one.

I want to get a 52 or so liters aquarium at least for now. Due to misinformation and limitations by my mother, I ended up in an annoying situation with the Hoplo and 2 swordtails in a 23 liter aquarium. -_-
After getting the 52 L one, I can plan on buying a larger support and a bigger aquarium (maybe 100L) for the catfish and the swordtails and make it a swordtail + hoplo community.

I'd agree with an aquarium with 3 walls that look like a cave 3D background or something, would look awesome with a yellow or white light. Would be pretty nice to watch too (though there is 1 problem if sick fish hide somewhere and you cannot see them to check if they are safe because you can't see that angle).
But covering all 4 walls... and the top would have a lid so you'd only see them at feeding time... now that's pretty stupid -.-
 
Sorry, my bad, I miscalculated.

For three, I'd say at least 300 liters, that's 80 gallons.

I don't know about other countries, but keeping 3 goldfish in a tank under that would be considered animal cruelty.
YOUR HAVING A LAUGH. 3 GOLD FISH TO 300 LITRES. AS A GENERAL RULE OF TANKS BIGGER THAN 30L. ITS 4.5 LITRES PER INCH OF FISH. YOU COULD HAVE OVER 25 EASILY :l
 
He's very informative, i wonder where he knows all this stuff from!


To me it sounds like the moor has maybe hit its eye on the ornament, it got infected because of bad wat6er conditions, and maybe the others attacked because it was weaker, thus causing it to fall out. Just my opinion :)
 
Sorry, my bad, I miscalculated.

For three, I'd say at least 300 liters, that's 80 gallons.

I don't know about other countries, but keeping 3 goldfish in a tank under that would be considered animal cruelty.
YOUR HAVING A LAUGH. 3 GOLD FISH TO 300 LITRES. AS A GENERAL RULE OF TANKS BIGGER THAN 30L. ITS 4.5 LITRES PER INCH OF FISH. YOU COULD HAVE OVER 25 EASILY :l
LOL GUESS WHO I AM! IM GONNA KEEP A TEN INCH OSCAR IN A TEN GALLON TANK AND SEE HOW THAT GOES :lol:
 
Sorry, my bad, I miscalculated.

For three, I'd say at least 300 liters, that's 80 gallons.

I don't know about other countries, but keeping 3 goldfish in a tank under that would be considered animal cruelty.
YOUR HAVING A LAUGH. 3 GOLD FISH TO 300 LITRES. AS A GENERAL RULE OF TANKS BIGGER THAN 30L. ITS 4.5 LITRES PER INCH OF FISH. YOU COULD HAVE OVER 25 EASILY :l



Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong,wrong, wrong...!!!

Terry.
 
No you could have 7 goldfish. 25 in 80 gallons wouldn't be one inch per gallon either....
 
YOUR HAVING A LAUGH. 3 GOLD FISH TO 300 LITRES. AS A GENERAL RULE OF TANKS BIGGER THAN 30L. ITS 4.5 LITRES PER INCH OF FISH. YOU COULD HAVE OVER 25 EASILY :l
Yes, but that 'guideline' is only relevant to small, slim bodied tropical fish, plus you have to calculate it using the eventual adult size of the fish...
 

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