going to have to buy yet another tank light... having multiple lights on multiple tanks, really highlights the poor quality...

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appears that most of the weakness in these things, is in the controllers, not the light bars...

I was so disgusted with lighting 30 years ago, that when I built my tanks in, I put incandescent light sockets above each tank... I may have to go back to using them, with screw in LED bulbs...

it's the planned obsolescence, of each $70 - $80 light, that just bugs me... I love the brightness, and what they can do, but I'm retiring, and I just can't plan on spending $400 - $500 per year, replacing these lights every year to year and a half
 
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Nicrew and Hygger, have been most of my original and repeat purchases so far...

looking at different brands, to try, but of coarse there are no longevity guarantees, with buying something new... I may have to go to a cheaper brand, if there is no advantage to buying the more expensive ones...

interesting the chiheros lights I just looked at aren't rated as waterproof, or water resistant...

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not looking for more features, only longer useable life, at this point...

open for suggestions, as I don't want to have to start taking down tanks, because I can't afford to replace lighting, once I'm on a fixed income...
 
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I have Fluvals. Some are getting onto 9 years, but one of two have failed around 5.
 
even with the Fluvals, Amazon sells reconditioned ones, which to me reads they have a high enough failure rate, while under warranty, to have lots of reconditioned ones to resell


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they are listed as "used very good", like in the last picture I attached ( they can't resell them as new )
 
they are listed as "used very good", like in the last picture I attached ( they can't resell them as new )
Those are reconditioned? I think those are just used items. Maybe returns. I could sell an item and it would show up as used.
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The used one is sold by the above seller.
Probably a reseller.
This is what is says
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Modern technology often sucks in terms of its durability. I still have some of my 20+ year old T-8 fluors running fine. I also have the Most of my power compacts from the long gone AH Supply working. I do not use them much as they are more light than my current tanks need.
I also retrofitted some of my old T-12 fixtures where I replaced the really old fluors with T-5s/ They also run well.

The more digital anything is, the more likely it is that, when it fails, it is due to the digital components rather than the mechanical ones.

I have a few Nicrew LEDS. Their basic models are cheaper than the current tank lighting using fluors cost. I do not like them all that much but the plants do OK with them. I will never buy the more expensive lighting as I see no reason to do so. I do not have a problem with my tank lights going full on and full off. So, I am not willing to pay for the sunrise and sunset feature.

I always had the cheapest Fluor I could get over my pleco tanks as the lights are only used when I have to work in the tank doing weekly maint. or when I had to collect fry.

I can also tell folks two factoids about my lighting. The first is our electrical supplier is ConEd.

How Con Edison rates compare
Con Edison's rates are often significantly higher than the national average.
Rates can vary within New York depending on the area and the utility, but Con Edison's rates have been high compared to many other utilities in surrounding areas.
Our current bills run between $500 and $600/month. Over the years when energy prices were higher we would occasionally get a monthly bill over $1,000. Ours is not a big house and we are lucky in this respect.

The second is over the years I have had a light fall into the tank. This happens during weekly maint. I always grab it pretty fast and it only every partly submerges. I have never gotten a shock nor lost any fish and the light always continues to work fine. From what I under stand just getting an LED fixture wet can cause it to break. I only have 3 of them. They are on my planted 5.5, 15 and 29 gal. Q-tank I keep running with some blue Neocaradina shrimp and assassin snails in it. I am very careful with those LEDs as I normally remove the glass tops on tanks to work in them.

Finally, I am a huge believer in two principles which are pretty similar:

- The KISS theory- Keep It Simple, Stupid.
and
Occam's razor, or the principle of parsimony, tells us that the simplest, most elegant explanation is usually the one closest to the truth.”
(Some things do require a more complex approach.)

So, my approach to tank lighting tries to follow the above.

Oh yes, having owned a sound company in the 70s, I also become a big believer in Murphy's Law:

"If something can go wrong, it will" is known as Murphy's Law, named after Captain Edward A. Murphy Jr., an engineer who worked on a 1949 Air Force project called Project MX981. While the exact origin is debated, Murphy is credited with observing the phenomenon that anything that can go wrong will.

The above is more true the more complex any system might be.
 
It's not just light units that fail quickly. I have been through 8 computers and laptops in the last 8 years. they all fail under warranty and companies refuse to fix them. Consumer protection no longer makes them fix the item under warranty and says it's up to the customer to take the multi billion dollar company to court to get the item fixed even though it's under warranty.

I'm sick to death of it. Companies deliberately build faults into items so they fail and we have to buy more. If I was ruler of the world I would say any electrical item sold must have a 10 yr warranty and last at least 50 years. That would piss off a lot of companies but fix the e-waste problem.
 
appears that most of the weakness in these things, is in the controllers, not the light bars...

I was so disgusted with lighting 30 years ago, that when I built my tanks in, I put incandescent light sockets above each tank... I may have to go back to using them, with screw in LED bulbs...

it's the planned obsolescence, of each $70 - $80 light, that just bugs me... I love the brightness, and what they can do, but I'm retiring, and I just can't plan on spending $400 - $500 per year, replacing these lights every year to year and a half
I just use a table lamp with a grow bulb in it or an actual grow lamp, you just have to make sure the light spectrum is what your aquatic plants need, they usually do better if you make sure they have a bit of the blue spectrum in them overall.
It's so much cheaper than buying brand name lights and I have had the same set of lamps for almost 2 years now, I bought 2 grow bulbs incase the first one died within a few months but it's been fine since I set it up.
Here I think I even have a few pictures saved still..
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Sorry, this is best pic I have of the little table lamp one I have right now(I'm currently at work), but this is the one with the grow bulb and the top image shows the grow lamps..
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And this is a decent representation of how many plants a cheap lamp like these can easily grow lol
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Since this picture was taken I've had to trim and pull plants out at least every 2 weeks, I do add some fertilizer every once in a while and some liquid co2, I also put a few root tabs in the soil/substrate when I started the tank about 6 months ago. The tank would look more well lit if there weren't so many plant, I also have floating plants blocking out a good deal of light.
I've gotten nicer actual aquarium lights and they usually burn out within a couple years OR they're too powerful and cause constant algae blooms..
So I tried going cheap after watching a few videos and listening to some other folks online and I've done grow lights and grow bulbs ever since.
Hope this kind of helps, good luck 👍
-K
 
So now I look at @ShrimplyKay 's solution and say I even have tanks with pendant lights hanging over them, or shop spots built as incandescent fixtures, but fitted with screw in LEDs. I'm not going to grow the most delicate plants with them, but they grow Valls, Anubias and Crypts very well - some stem plants too. You choose the bulb carefully, and the fixture itself costs about what the bulb does. If you can find clip on shop lights, one will do a 20 gallon.

For my fancier plants, I prefer my fluval fixtures.

One of today's projects is to hang an LEd equipped incandescent fixture to replace an ancient LED strip that lacks oomph, because I want to increase Pistia growth for a fish that will breed in its roots. It will get a plant bulb, and I thoroughly expect that to give me more plants I can use.

Plant grow systems like ShrimplyKay has have given me a little algae trouble at times. I have a few with different configurations I've picked up at a local clearance type store, with 30 inch ones for around $12 CAD each - very cheap. They grow lettuce in winter as well as various roots in the tank houseplants. Some grow lighting set ups have fed diatoms or brown algae, and one made cyano very happy. But the screw in bulbs haven't. I've been using them since they first appeared on the market quite a ways back.
 

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