Geneticaly Modified fish

[UBigBobby]

Its ok as long as its done with responsibility. As long as modifying it doesn't hurt the species. Modding it to change the color, or size is fine as long as it doesn't hurt the fish's chances of survival in a tank, etc. Although I see no need to mod any fish other than to increase profits.

And anyone who mentions humans destroying the world or anything about endangered species need to watch Penn and Teller's Bull####! on the subject.

 

[clunkster]

its wrong totaly wrong otherwise it would occur in nature put it this way would you like it done to you?

 

[UBigBobby]

its wrong totaly wrong otherwise it would occur in nature put it this way would you like it done to you?

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Peanuts never naturally occured in nature either...do you eat peanuts?

 

[Fiori]

Peanuts never naturally occured in nature either...do you eat peanuts?

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Of course they do - its a legume plant native to south America

 

[Tropjunky]

banannas don't chickens we buy from the supermarket don't these are all breed and minipulated for things that don't happen.

it's like the seedless grape it shouldn't exist or muels (i think).

so yah we're minipulating DNA but we do that anyway but it's much more crude, if i was gonna operate on you u'd prefer a scapal to a mallet it's the same it genetic minipulation instead of breeding something to make a new species and hope that it's not going to result in fishies in pain do some research then modify the DNA and then u've got urself a health new species and one that's happy.

 

[jarcher1390]

the fish sould stay the way they are and there is plenty of other coulful fish to get

 

[pica_nuttalli]

its wrong totaly wrong otherwise it would occur in nature put it this way would you like it done to you? 

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what? i could have been born with a massive dragon tattoo on my back? one of those really cool ones with highlights on the scales and great big 5-color eyes the size of my fists? and it wouldn't have hurt me? heck yeah, i'd want that!

i think its totally wrong to equivocate everything done to animals to done to humans. would i want my reproductive organs surgically removed just so that in case i had unprotected sex, i couldn't get pregnant and contribute to the massive overpopulation of unwanted humans? NO but i'm still getting my cats fixed.


back to the subject at hand, i'm ok with genetically modified fish on two counts:
1 ) if someone can only be satisfied with artificially colored fish, lets at least not make the fish suffer for it first.
2 ) the glowfish actually have some scientific basis behind their development; they are genetically designed to help monitor water quality. (i believe this is the *most* recent thread prior to the current one: http/www.fishforums.net/index.php?showto...&st=&p=&#entry)


and as for genetically modified food... do you eat seedless fruit such as grapes or oranges? those are essentially the product of genetic manipulation--there's no way possible for these fruits to reproduce in nature. but they certainly taste pretty good. my objections to GM food is that i don't think there's currently enough testing/regulation for side effects and i find it morally disturbing that a company would create special drought-resistant corn for 3rd world farmers but disable the reproductive abilities of the resultant plants. i understand that its a business necessity, but it still feels objectionable.

 

[OohFeeshy]

If you wouldn't do it to your own species, don't do it to other species.

 

[Opcn]

I'd love to glow

 

[jollysue]

Do you eat nectarines, big plump turkeys, buy big long stem roses, enjoy the sniff of a flora bunda or a tea rose? We use modified bacteria that eat up oil spills and then they die. Do you love the sight of a beautiful thoroghbred horse taking a jump gracefully? Or do you prefer the quarter horse and calf roping and barrel races.

I like my plump juicey corn and my nectarines and my grafted peaches and roses. Oh, don't forget that lovely herefordshire. I'm so glad that we can clean up our oil spills without the whole thing being destroyed forever. Now we can fix little unborn babies with birth defects before they are born. Husbandry goes back before the flood--maybe to the first garden.

Years ago I was a '60s hippie. We all wanted to go back to nature without a clue what that ment. Do you really want to give up everything that is the result of selective breeding? Selective breeding is just another form of bio genetics--gene manipulation.

How many of us are arrogant enough to think we would survive with the fittest?

But always I say let's be responsible for the choices we make.

 

[Dorkhedeos]

its wrong totaly wrong otherwise it would occur in nature put it this way would you like it done to you?

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yeah, i would want to be born glowing! if i could look the same but glow under a blacklight, and have the process be painless, i would do it

 

[jollysue]

Black light neon glow? It would fit right in the old Haight or Sunset and Vine in Hollywood. I California!

 

[Opcn]

You know, humans arent the only practitioners of agraculture or domestication, Rodents burry the seeds of plants that they like to eat, but not other plants, garabaldi damself fish will keep gardens of seaweed and dispose of unpalatable varieties, leafcutter ants have grown in sybiosis with a type of fungus. Symbiosis is a part of life, it maqy look like we are taking hold of nature but nature is hand in hand with us, the tomato plant that we inject with a gene for more of vitamin P will go on to sire lots of other tomato plants because we will keep it around because we are addicted to vitamin P, ensureing the extended survival of the other genes that were in the plant at the time we modified it, nature is unbeatable because it rolls with the punches, if you cut it in half the two halves will both grow and flourish, its all about making sure that nature include us at this point.