Fresh water pleco

[Newfishy1966]

Hi all, i have recently set up a 60L tank with four goldfish in it (that are thriving) however! After some advice i obtained a JJapanes plec to help keep algae down. My question is in connection with the geco... My plec never leaves the glass of the tank, he never goes near the floor of the tank, rocks or driftwood, i was just wondering,if this is normal?

 

[Newfishy1966]

Sorry, not geco... I meant plec

 

[Fishmanic]

They can spend much of the time on the glass.
However, plecos will be more out in the open during night time hours .. So although you don't see him on the substrate chances are that at night he is scavenging for bits of food on the substrate

Depending on the size of your pleco, you might, on every 2nd or third day, drop in a half or a whole alge wafer to supplement his diet.

 

[Newfishy1966]

They can spend much of the time on the glass.
However, plecos will be more out in the open during night time hours .. So although you don't see him on the substrate chances are that at night he is scavenging for bits of food on the substrate

Depending on the size of your pleco, you might, on every 2nd or third day, drop in a half or a whole alge wafer to supplement his diet.

Thank you very much, i was getting concerned, due to never seeing him move from the glass, and always being in the same area of the tank. I have placed drift wood, but will add algae wafer tonight, id hate for him to go hungry

 

[marnold00]

Im sorry to say it but your tank is very overstocked. 1 single goldfish would be enough for a 60 litre but even that would be pushing it. 4 goldfish would need a tank well over triple the size, and then a plec aswell? i would advise either getting a larger tank or rehoming these fish and getting ones more suitable to your tank size.

Goldfish produce an awful lot of waste, which in turn produces ammonia. If you dont know about the nitrogen cycle then i'd advise reading up on it asap.

If your plec is anything other than a dwarf species (like a bristlenose) then it will grow to over a foot long. They also produce huge amounts of waste requiring a big tank.

Also, lots of goldfish prefer cooler water and im not sure if the plec would be too happy. Sorry to sound negative!

In the right tank environment these fish should last 10 years and more. They will also all get very big. The 'fish grow to the size of their tank' is a myth. Whilst their body growth will be stunted, their internals will keep growing and they will live a very unhappy life and die early.

Find out your water parameters (pH and hardness) and then people on here will be able to help with stocking

 

[Newfishy1966]

Im sorry to say it but your tank is very overstocked. 1 single goldfish would be enough for a 60 litre but even that would be pushing it. 4 goldfish would need a tank well over triple the size, and then a plec aswell? i would advise either getting a larger tank or rehoming these fish and getting ones more suitable to your tank size.

Goldfish produce an awful lot of waste, which in turn produces ammonia. If you dont know about the nitrogen cycle then i'd advise reading up on it asap.

If your plec is anything other than a dwarf species (like a bristlenose) then it will grow to over a foot long. They also produce huge amounts of waste requiring a big tank.

Also, lots of goldfish prefer cooler water and im not sure if the plec would be too happy. Sorry to sound negative!

In the right tank environment these fish should last 10 years and more. They will also all get very big. The 'fish grow to the size of their tank' is a myth. Whilst their body growth will be stunted, their internals will keep growing and they will live a very unhappy life and die early.

Find out your water parameters (pH and hardness) and then people on here will be able to help with stocking

I am aware that the fish i have will grow a good bit larger, and intend on buying a much bigger tank in 6 months time, thank you very much for your advice and input

 

[marnold00]

More than 'a bit' but good that youve already taken it into account if you dont already id recommend testing the ammonia and nitrite levels regularly even whilst young and small plecs and goldfish will produce far more waste than other fish

 

[Byron]

I'm afraid there is more here. From the photo, the fish is not a pleco but a Hillstream Loach. These need cool water (like the goldfish so OK on that) but they also need a current. They live in fast flowing streams, and adhere to rocks in the current, scraping off algae. If there is no algae in the tank, this fish may not last long. Getting them to eat prepared algae-based foods is not always easy.

Given the other issues others have already mentioned, I would suggest you return the loach(es) and wait until you have the goldfish in the larger tank, then build the smaller tank for a small group of Hillstream Loaches if you want them. This is really one of the most specialized fish in the hobby in terms of the requirements.

Byron.

 

[DoubleDutch]

Agree with Byron

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