Floater problems

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Okay, so I started a 29 gallon JUST plants tank so I can grow more for my business. The ancharis and some mysterious plant I have yet to ID have exploded. But the Red root floaters and the frogbit aren't doing well. I have up root tabs in, and I do water changes, I have two bright clamp lights (100 watts) on them. But they just don't seem to want to grow! Is it maybe just because the tank is new, or maybe they are adjusting to their new home. Some advice.
 
Okay, so I started a 29 gallon JUST plants tank so I can grow more for my business. The ancharis and some mysterious plant I have yet to ID have exploded. But the Red root floaters and the frogbit aren't doing well. I have up root tabs in, and I do water changes, I have two bright clamp lights (100 watts) on them. But they just don't seem to want to grow! Is it maybe just because the tank is new, or maybe they are adjusting to their new home. Some advice.
What fertilizer are you providing? They're going to need something in the way of nitrogen if you aren't keeping fish in there
 
The Flourish (Excell) will melt your Anacharis. Anacharis is sensitive to formaldehyde.
 
So Seachem tend to split all their products up.
Seachem Flourish provides micronutrients, as advised by seangee, however it does not provide nitrogen and phosphate.
Because you do not have fish in this tank, there will not be a source of nitrogen (ammonia.. nitrate), nor will there be a source of phosphate which tends to come from fish food.
Therefore, you may also want to consider dosing Seachem Nitrogen and Seachem Phosphorus.
If you were in the UK, I would be advising that you use TNC Complete, as this provides micronutrients and nitrogen and phosphate.

There may be other fertilizers on the market that provide all compounds required in a fishless planted tank.

(Seachem Excel is meant to act as a source of carbon, it is not really a fertilizer in the sense that Flourish is).
 
(Seachem Excel is meant to act as a source of carbon, it is not really a fertilizer in the sense that Flourish is).
Isn’t that supposed to be used for tanks that have a liquid Co2 system?
 
Isn’t that supposed to be used for tanks that have a liquid Co2 system?
Sorry, whats a 'liquid co2 system'?

Excel as a liquid doesn't put co2 into the water column as thats impossible. Co2 only forms as a liquid either under high pressure or very low temps.
Plants breakdown co2 into other carbon compounds to be used by photosynthesis. Excel is similar to some of these carbon compounds, so sort of bypasses the need for co2. I've never used it as I keep fish in my planted tanks, and I wouldnt trust it around livestock.
 
Isn’t that supposed to be used for tanks that have a liquid Co2 system?
No, it's advertised as 'liquid carbon', supposedly for tanks that don't have CO2 systems, since those wouldn't need another source. Or in addition to CO2. From their website;
"Use as an alternative to CO2 injection or in addition to it"

But in practice, it's glutaraldehyde. This is a very toxic substance, and it's more of an algaecide than 'liquid CO2', which isn't a thing. It works in the sense that it kills off algae, so plants can sometimes grow better without that competition, but it also kills plants like vallis, and it's very dangerous when overdosed. Since it's also dangerous to humans, and so dangerous to organic life even in relatively small amounts, most of us avoid it, because who knows what damage it's doing to livestock even in the recommended doses. Given that fish literally breathe in the water, they're not just swimming in it, and the benefits are negligable, most of us find it not worth the risk, especially since it doesn't really work as advertised.

I used it twice, as an algaecide, and it worked to kill algae and I didn't see any bad effects on fish. But I won't ever use it again because who knows what damage it might have done/do to fish, and it doesn't solve the underlying cause of the algae problem either, so you still need to fix that, or continue using a toxic substance in your tanks...
 

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