Fishless Cycling My New Tank

ralphy

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I have currently been fishless cycleing my new tank now for around 3 weeks and would like some advive on how to drop Nitrite levels.

My readings are :


Nitrite 5ppm
Nitrate 5ppm
Ammonia 0ppm



Hope this is enough information, about an hour ago I did around a 15% water change but have not yet tested the water.

Thanks for your time.

Regards P.Ralph
 
sounds good, just test the water and keep the water changes up until the nitraes and nitrites drop to zero, then keep testing and make sur you keep get readings that are low
 
sounds good, just test the water and keep the water changes up until the nitraes and nitrites drop to zero, then keep testing and make sur you keep get readings that are low
Wow what a quick reply.

Thanks a lot I shall try that then.

I currently have a 2ft tank which is fully matured but I inherited that one so I didn't need to cycle it.

I am itching to put these fish into my new tank.
 
I'm going to go against the grain a little here and surgest you do nothing to help the levels along this early on. It is a fishless cycle, so the readings do not need to be low. Above a point, nitrite becomes toxic to the filter bacteria you are trying to establish, but this level is extreamly high (above where our kits test for) :nod: The higher the nitrite level once the NOB's set in, the more stable I find the colony is after the cycle completes, and thus the less chance you have of mini-cycles once the fish are in :good: There is a cut off point, but you aren't likley to have found it yet... Nitrate is present, so unless it comes from the tap water, the NOB's are already at work :nod:

(Nitrie Oxidising Bacteria is the acronym NOB here guys, just to avoid the regular confusion ;) )

If you find that things aren't moving along, do a large (as near to 100% as possible) waterchange, and that should re-spark things :nod: You shouldn't need to do that untill you're near finished though. Only do this if levels stop moving as they were a few days before, or if you find the levels have remained stable for a few days. Yes, skipping waterchanges will slow things up a little, but the increased filter stability after the cycle is worth the extra couple of days wait IMO :nod:

All the best
Rabbut

EDIT to add after seeing your reply; if you are upgrading and closing down the old tank, why are you bothering to cycle? Just do a full waterchange now to clear the nitrite and move the old tank's filter media across to the new tank with the fish. Bingo, instantly cycled tank ready to go, for the number of fish you had in the old one :good: Give it a couple of weeks to monitor it and ensure no mini-cycles occur (very unlikely of you keep the filter wet all the time, but remotely possible) and you are ready to slowly increase fish numbers in the new tank (don't more than double numbers in a week and you will be fine) and hey-presto :hyper:
 
sounds good, just test the water and keep the water changes up until the nitraes and nitrites drop to zero, then keep testing and make sur you keep get readings that are low


??? why would you want 2 do water changes during a cycle the nitrites need to be there for the nitrite bacteria to grow if you remove the nirites then they wont grow .... let the cycle continue and then when you have 0 ammonia and nitrites drop within a 12 hr period then think about doing water changes to drop the nitrates :)


LOL edited just 2 say the explanation above is beter :p


jen
 
oh crap my bad im thinking marine sorry people and i didnt see how long your tank had been up and running im not very thorough pperson
 
Around 2 hrs ago I put the required amout of Stress Zyme in and I don't know wether they were there b4 or not but I have noticed 2 very very very tiny snails stuck to the front glass.
Also I have noticed a small amout of algea.


Is this normal during a fishless cycle and if not how do I cure it?



Water chemistry levels :-


Nitrite 3.0
Nitrate 20
Ammonia 0.25
Ph 7.2
Temp 80 F 26-27 C
 
Around 2 hrs ago I put the required amout of Stress Zyme in and I don't know wether they were there b4 or not but I have noticed 2 very very very tiny snails stuck to the front glass.
Also I have noticed a small amout of algea.


Is this normal during a fishless cycle and if not how do I cure it?



Water chemistry levels :-


Nitrite 3.0
Nitrate 20
Ammonia 0.25
Ph 7.2
Temp 80 F 26-27 C
How long now do you think?
 
Around 2 hrs ago I put the required amout of Stress Zyme in and I don't know wether they were there b4 or not but I have noticed 2 very very very tiny snails stuck to the front glass.
Also I have noticed a small amout of algea.


Is this normal during a fishless cycle and if not how do I cure it?



Water chemistry levels :-


Nitrite 3.0
Nitrate 20
Ammonia 0.25
Ph 7.2
Temp 80 F 26-27 C
How long now do you think?

Ok so you are doing a fishless cycle and are 3 weeks or so in, yes?

Your stats are looking good but as previous posters suggest the water changes are not needed at this stage (I think you are getting confused with cycling WITH fish)
If your ammonia is down to .25 then it needs topping up to around 4-5ppm. Then it needs monitoring to see how quickly it goes down to zero again (then top up again) Post this amount of time and you will start getting the possible answers you require.
Also, test tap water for nitrate
 
Around 2 hrs ago I put the required amout of Stress Zyme in and I don't know wether they were there b4 or not but I have noticed 2 very very very tiny snails stuck to the front glass.
Also I have noticed a small amout of algea.


Is this normal during a fishless cycle and if not how do I cure it?



Water chemistry levels :-


Nitrite 3.0
Nitrate 20
Ammonia 0.25
Ph 7.2
Temp 80 F 26-27 C
Ok thanks for that.

Whats the best ammonia to use and how much if it do I put into my tank, it's a Juwel Vision 180 (180litres).
How long now do you think?

Ok so you are doing a fishless cycle and are 3 weeks or so in, yes?

Your stats are looking good but as previous posters suggest the water changes are not needed at this stage (I think you are getting confused with cycling WITH fish)
If your ammonia is down to .25 then it needs topping up to around 4-5ppm. Then it needs monitoring to see how quickly it goes down to zero again (then top up again) Post this amount of time and you will start getting the possible answers you require.
Also, test tap water for nitrate
 

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