Fish Species

[Luzi]

I'm moving my 6 platies and 2 loaches to a new 64L tank so now my 25L is free!
I'm going to seed with the filter, water & gravel from my old tank, so that's not a problem
Once the new tank is esablished, i want to keep some nice little fish in the 25L

The 25L has a few limitations. Of course, it's small so i can't add anything huge. I don't have a heater for it so no tropical fish (though it's indoors and its current unheated temp. is between 20-22*C). I need very hardy fish which can survive my fishkeeping And of course, only a few fish are available at my LFS

 

[Piltdownpaul]

Sounds like a shrimp and plant set up to me

 

[fshinggrl]

White Cloud Mountain Minnows love cooler water! A shoal of them would work I believe!

 

[Luzi]

Minnows sound good. I was also thinking about Danios, would they survive? I already have platy, so they're out

 

[Piltdownpaul]

Not danios really-they are fast swimming fish which need lots of space to swim and plenty of oxygen.

 

[Luzi]

Oxygen is no problem, my filter aerates well and i have an emergency airstone

At my LFS (P@H, the best of the best) they have danios, minnows, rosy barbs, variatus platy (i have the other kind) and american flagfish
After reading their online advice, the flagfish sound a bit vicious but the barbs and minnows look interesting. Has anyone kept these? It would be a species tank so they don't need to be the best behaved fish in the world

At my other LFS i know they stock my species of platy and various goldfish but possibly some other temperate species which i'll take a look at. I'm not gettnig a golfish, don't worry

 

[N0body Of The Goat]

Not danios really-they are fast swimming fish which need lots of space to swim and plenty of oxygen.

Oxygen is no problem, my filter aerates well and i have an emergency airstone

At my LFS (P@H, the best of the best) they have danios, minnows, rosy barbs, variatus platy (i have the other kind) and american flagfish
After reading their online advice, the flagfish sound a bit vicious but the barbs and minnows look interesting. Has anyone kept these? It would be a species tank so they don't need to be the best behaved fish in the world

At my other LFS i know they stock my species of platy and various goldfish but possibly some other temperate species which i'll take a look at. I'm not gettnig a golfish, don't worry

I think you are missing the point here...

Danios need a tank at the very least 3 feet long (90cm), if not 4+ (120cm), as they are energetic fish. My Pearls zoom from one end to the other in less than a second in my Rio240. While in quarantine for what appeared to be an uncurable virus, they all lost their colour and generally looked like less happy fish in the 60cm long Korrall, but they quickly became their playful happy selves once returned to the 240!

Edit: You would do very well to find a suitable barb or minnow for a 25l tank... That's less than half the size of my quarantine tank.

Its not about what size the fish are when you see them at Pets At Home or any other store, its about researching a species to make sure that you have a suitable home for it well into adulthood and hopefully pensioner age!

You might be able to get something that can be brought up for a while in the 25l before transferring it to the 64l, but even a tank that big has stock limitations plus it will mean you should not be in a rush to put more fish in the 64l now as you will end up with a "tank crash" that could kill most if not all the fish!

 

[arobinson1984]

Have a look at nano fish species,

Something like scarlet badis should be ok, may sure the tank is fully cycled properly before adding any fish, also I'd certainly recommend a fishless cycle, it would be quite hard to prevent fish getting damaged during a fish in cycle as ammonia would rise very quickly in such a small body of water.

You would need a heater though

Andy

 

[Luzi]

The unheated 25L currently has platies happily breeding - this is why i'm upgrading. I won't be adding other fish to the 64L anytime soon.

I'll use media from my already established tank which will speed up the cycle and i won't add any fish until the tank's fully cycled. The 25L will be uheated so fully tropical fish are out. Current unheated temp. is between 20-22*C
Now that's out of the way...

I'd like the residents of my 25L to be permanent so nothing that gets longer than 5cm really, or a fish that's very inactive. I appreciate that danios are out, I don't want to torture the poor things.
This IS my species research, I thought i'd get advice from people who've actually kept these species rather then the store
There's not much available for me to chose from, but after some rummaging around on the internet the flagfish seem like a good option as they don't seem to need a huge tank and my filter makes a strong current. There's no problem with fin nipping- species tank. Has anyone kept these before?

 

[arobinson1984]

You will really limit your options trying to find sub tropical / coldwater fish to fit in that tank.

Is there a specific reason you dont want to add a heater to the 25L?


Andy

 

[OldMan47]

Other easy to keep fish that you might consider are black chins, Girardinus metallicus, or golden teddies, Xenophallus umbratilis. I also like Heterandria formosa for a tiny tank. I breed all 3 fish in 10 gallon, 38 litre, tanks.

Golden teddies adult male at less than 3 cm

Adult female at about 3 cm

Heterandria formosa adult male at about 2 cm

Adult Het female swimming ahead of a pygmy cory and about 3 cm

I hope these suggestions help a bit.

 

[zophie]

Not danios really-they are fast swimming fish which need lots of space to swim and plenty of oxygen.

Oxygen is no problem, my filter aerates well and i have an emergency airstone

At my LFS (P@H, the best of the best) they have danios, minnows, rosy barbs, variatus platy (i have the other kind) and american flagfish
After reading their online advice, the flagfish sound a bit vicious but the barbs and minnows look interesting. Has anyone kept these? It would be a species tank so they don't need to be the best behaved fish in the world

At my other LFS i know they stock my species of platy and various goldfish but possibly some other temperate species which i'll take a look at. I'm not gettnig a golfish, don't worry

I think you are missing the point here...

Danios need a tank at the very least 3 feet long (90cm), if not 4+ (120cm), as they are energetic fish. My Pearls zoom from one end to the other in less than a second in my Rio240. While in quarantine for what appeared to be an uncurable virus, they all lost their colour and generally looked like less happy fish in the 60cm long Korrall, but they quickly became their playful happy selves once returned to the 240!

Edit: You would do very well to find a suitable barb or minnow for a 25l tank... That's less than half the size of my quarantine tank.

Its not about what size the fish are when you see them at Pets At Home or any other store, its about researching a species to make sure that you have a suitable home for it well into adulthood and hopefully pensioner age!

You might be able to get something that can be brought up for a while in the 25l before transferring it to the 64l, but even a tank that big has stock limitations plus it will mean you should not be in a rush to put more fish in the 64l now as you will end up with a "tank crash" that could kill most if not all the fish!

Sheesh! Someone sounds a little tense here... chill!

 

[N0body Of The Goat]

Not danios really-they are fast swimming fish which need lots of space to swim and plenty of oxygen.

Oxygen is no problem, my filter aerates well and i have an emergency airstone

At my LFS (P@H, the best of the best) they have danios, minnows, rosy barbs, variatus platy (i have the other kind) and american flagfish
After reading their online advice, the flagfish sound a bit vicious but the barbs and minnows look interesting. Has anyone kept these? It would be a species tank so they don't need to be the best behaved fish in the world

At my other LFS i know they stock my species of platy and various goldfish but possibly some other temperate species which i'll take a look at. I'm not gettnig a golfish, don't worry

I think you are missing the point here...

Danios need a tank at the very least 3 feet long (90cm), if not 4+ (120cm), as they are energetic fish. My Pearls zoom from one end to the other in less than a second in my Rio240. While in quarantine for what appeared to be an uncurable virus, they all lost their colour and generally looked like less happy fish in the 60cm long Korrall, but they quickly became their playful happy selves once returned to the 240!

Edit: You would do very well to find a suitable barb or minnow for a 25l tank... That's less than half the size of my quarantine tank.

Its not about what size the fish are when you see them at Pets At Home or any other store, its about researching a species to make sure that you have a suitable home for it well into adulthood and hopefully pensioner age!

You might be able to get something that can be brought up for a while in the 25l before transferring it to the 64l, but even a tank that big has stock limitations plus it will mean you should not be in a rush to put more fish in the 64l now as you will end up with a "tank crash" that could kill most if not all the fish!

Sheesh! Someone sounds a little tense here... chill!

The "tense" reply came about as PiltdownPaul had already given some advice about Danio requirements before me, "Not danios really-they are fast swimming fish which need lots of space to swim and plenty of oxygen," but then OP brushed it off off by replying "Oxygen is no problem, my filter aerates well and i have an emergency airstone."

By not gving any sort of comment to the space requirements, that reply comes across as though the OP has no intrerest in the space requirements of these active fish. Sometimes what it not said is as important (or even more so) that what is said

Just recently, there have been numerous posts about putting Danios in tanks <3ft long. The size of the tank is not the "be all and end all" factor in finding suitable fish for any given size tank...