Fish Flicking

[roseykat5]

my paradise fish was seen flicking himself and was just wondering if it means it got ick or something i havent seen any spots on them but i did treat last week and already did 2 water changes since then and its been 4 days since the last one the treatment was done for one week and i put it for extra few days to make sure but i guess its not done ...

now the question is salt frome what i have been told is the best treatment along with heat but i have 3 kinds of corydoras in there swarti, emerald gold and leopard cory which was one of the cory that was flicking last week and the rainbow shark as well so i treated the tank and it ws crossed contaimenated from my hospital tank somehow .... from the net

its a 90 gal tank and in there is 2 platties, corydoras, 8 paradise fish and rainbow shark and one pleco so what do u suggest i do i have ick treatment as well as melfix ... i dont see any spots in the mean time but just the flicking so im hoping its just an itch what is the best corse to go
water temp is at 85 degrees and the water preamater is 0 but the last one is always around 5-10 nothing to worry about if im missing any info let me know and will answer but i dont want to lose anyone so if its not ick what would cause them to flick themself on the rocks

 

[WILDER]

So ammonia and nitrite is 0.
Are the fish swimming in a jerky movement.
Check the gills to see of there pale with excess mucas on them, or red and inflamed.

 

[roseykat5]

nuthing as i can c but 2 platties do have inflammed gills now that u mention them what would that b


all fishy are doing well now that ive added airstones in the tank added them over the weekend .. made a differances ... the plaatties are swimming fine as of airstones .. they were hanging out at the water surface til i got the airstones thought it was the ick med that was doing that

 

[WILDER]

The fish have gill flukes.
Red inflamed to bleeding gills.
http/www.flubenol.co.uk/

 

[WILDER]

http/ezinearticles.com/?Skin-and-Gill-Fl...sh&id=78794

 

[roseykat5]

so this mean my para dise has them too ....
and i have to treat both tank dont have anything at the monent what do u suggest


i live in canada too

 

[WILDER]

If you havent been sterlising equipment yes it can pass onto another tank.
Flubonal I left a link if you live in the uk.
With flukes best to add a bacterial med as in there hooks and suckers they have a nasty bacteria, so once the parasite has pierced the skin the bacteria enters the fish.

You will need a fluke med, there once called clout but its very strong.

Look under gill flukes.
http/www.fish-disease.net/diseases.htm

 

[roseykat5]

ok salt i can but was told no no 4 cories i have in the and have no where to move them either

 

[WILDER]

No salt some sites say that salt not affective anyway on flukes, they take some getting rid of.
That last link gives you quite a few meds for gill flukes.

 

[roseykat5]

ok thanks 4 a great help and i will go to lsf to get meds .. u r a life safer .... i guess i would treat both tanks and the most recent fish i got were the cories and was wondering how hte heck i got it they were in the hospital tank first and i didnt see thing and then i noticed a spot on the cory so i thought it was ick and treated them .. i take it it prob wasnt any to begin with and u think its dif a gill flukes

 

[WILDER]

Corys are not prone to whitespot, more bacterial but yes they can get flukes.
Good luck.

 

[roseykat5]

one more question .... i dont know if the pic works but the platty im talking about is a sunset platty i think they normally have red gills it dont look inflamed i thought it did but im just wondering if it could be related to the treatment i did last week so i dont know what else to think will the meds kill them if i did treat it to be on safe side

 

[WILDER]

Red gills can be due to poor water quality, bacterial to parasite.
Any fish pecking at the gill area.
If there flicking and the corys are which is not them I would say you do have flukes.
Meds cause a fish irratation.

 

[WILDER]

Could remove the fish and follow this procedure.
JBL Gyrodactol is an effective preparation to combat gill and skin trematoda of the genus gyrodactylus and dactylogyrus in aquarium fish.
Increased breathing, (as for oxygen deficiency), shying at objects, jerky swimming movements in conjunction with shock colouring or apathetic "hanging around" in the aquarium are signs of infection with gill worms.

In the case of infection with skin trematoda, bloodshot areas of skin may also be observed. Infection of the gills may be diagnosed using simple means as follows: catch the suspected fish and lay them on a damp surface, then, with a pair of tweezers, carefully raise one gill cover. The white worms may be easily recognised using a magnifying glass (10x).

 

[roseykat5]

ok so the meds wont kill them if it is even it not will do something and cure possiblilty of what ever ails them i dont wanna kill them at all so thats why im asking ok thanks again ill trust ya and go and get hte meds u listed and see if i get a match at the superpet