External Filters

[Bloo]

I take it alllllll back after the fun and games we had with the fluval last night

What happened ??

 

[demonmagus]

I think the details are here:

http/www.fishforums.net/index.php?showtopic=155080

 

[Bloo]

Ahhh got the bit in that post that applies to the filter

I was just tinkering with arranging plants and decor when Ian spots that the filter is leaking all over the floor. bugger. Took us forever to figure out why, must have got knocked somehow and the seal's buggered. So eventually we manage to get it set up, sat in a bucket which we're keping a v close eye on so it doesn't overflow. Then the bloody thing won't start again, and we bought it 2nd hand and don't have the primer for it so each time we try and start it we have to suck on the end and get a gob full of fishy water. mmmmm nice anyway we eventually got it working about 8.30 (we started all this about 4pm).

 

[Miss Wiggle]

yup. joyous. thankfully the level of water in the bucket doesn't seem to have increased overnight so hopefully it was just settling in and will be fine

 

[davys]

hi,
i have a juwel 180ltr, i want to get an external filter to run along side the standard juwel internal,
my choices are,
fluval 205 ,which is for tanks up to 200ltrs. £52.95.
eheim ecco 2232, which is for tanks up to 100ltrs, £52.95.

as well as extra bio load, what i also want is a pre filter so the water looks clear, from the pic ive seen of the eheim it has a poly pad, i cant tell if the fluval has a pre filter pad.
also do you get everything in the box ready to go? are they easy to maintain?
thanks for any info. donna

I also have a Juwel 180 and was also thinking of having the Eheim Ecco 2234 running alomgside the built in filter.

The Eheim's are new to me however - I'll be grateful if someone can advise of the maintenance schedule for the external Ecco. I read on a couple of websites that once set up, there's no need to open it again for a 2-3 months, so I'll be very grateful if someone can confirm this is the case. I also have the Juwel structured background in place, so will this interfere with the internal pipework of the Ecco.

Many thanks folks.

 

[Bloo]

I also have a Juwel 180 and was also thinking of having the Eheim Ecco 2234 running alomgside the built in filter.

The Eheim's are new to me however - I'll be grateful if someone can advise of the maintenance schedule for the external Ecco. I read on a couple of websites that once set up, there's no need to open it again for a 2-3 months, so I'll be very grateful if someone can confirm this is the case. I also have the Juwel structured background in place, so will this interfere with the internal pipework of the Ecco.

I've never used an Ecco - but have been advised by enough people not to. And from enough reviews I've read think you'll be better off with a Classic Eheim 2213 to run in conjunction with your existing internal Juwel.

Your question depends entirely on stocking. But as your external won't be the only filter, (and if you have a standard community tank) - I'd say you'd probably be fine with such a routine.

That's what I do anyway. Though that said - always check that the outflow remains the same. If it reduces it will mean that there is clogging somewhere and needs checking.

As you would run two filters, never clean them at the same time. Do them about a week apart.

I don't have experience with the structured Juwel background - though cannot see that being a problem.

 

[donna123]

hi,
thanks for all your input,
ive decided on a eheim ecco 2234, i found the next model up from the 2232 for £52.90 delivered, five pence cheaper for the 200ltr filter, so im happy with that.
as im running it as well as the internal juwel im sure it will be fine.
i will let you know what i think to it, donna

 

[Number 1 Jasper]

im running a eheim 2213 on my 37g tank and it does its job i would recomend it 101% waters always crystal clear

Further to this , i have a uwel rio 125 tank with the origional Filter + a fluval 2 internal filter .

I dont like the look of the fluval in the tank & want an external pump For aesthetic / better filtration . any suggestions ?

any advice PLEASE

 

[CFC]

It depends on whether you plan on leaving the Juwel filter in and running the external as a suplement or you want to cut out the Juwel filter (the most popular choice) and havr the external as your sole filtration method.

If as a supplement then one of the smaller Eheim models such as the classic 2213 or ecco 2232 would do you fine but if you want the external as your sole filtration then a larger filter such as the classic 2215 or ecco 2234 would be needed

 

[Number 1 Jasper]

It depends on whether you plan on leaving the Juwel filter in and running the external as a suplement or you want to cut out the Juwel filter (the most popular choice) and havr the external as your sole filtration method.

If as a supplement then one of the smaller Eheim models such as the classic 2213 or ecco 2232 would do you fine but if you want the external as your sole filtration then a larger filter such as the classic 2215 or ecco 2234 would be needed

TBH swiching off the internal filter was not something i had considered , but it does make sense . Tjhanks for the advice , will go for the option of the larger filter and get rid on the existing Juwel internal filter .

which is better Classic 2215 or ecco 2234 ?

 

[donna123]

hi,
i dont think there is anything wrong with the juwel filters, infact i think there fine, im just toping mine up so i can clean them one at a time and have more bio room, yes juwel take up loads of room and i guess it would be good to have extra swimming room, im keeping mine in and running both, the eheim ive chosen is for up to 200ltrs so when i upgrade to the juwel 260 i will use this as an add on also.

 

[CFC]

Personally i preffer the 2215 for its simple no nonsence design and practicality but some people preffer the self priming pump handle of the ecco range, its a matter of personal prefference at the end of the day.


Juwel filters are one of the worst designed filters on the market, the fixed casing is difficult to clean and allows large amounts of sludge and debris to build up inside which causes nitrates to sky rocket. They are probably fine for what they were originally designed for, that is very lightly stocked densely planted tanks which are favoured in continental Europe (often referred to as Dutch style aquariums). The UK/American style of the hobby is more based around the fish and we tend to have much higher stocking levels than our continental cousins, the Juwel filters are not designed to cope with the higher bio load of such tanks and problems invariably start to form within 6 to 12 months.

The majority of Juwel tank owners on this forum have removed the Juwel filter box completely and replaced it with a more suitable filter.

 

[Number 1 Jasper]

hi,
i dont think there is anything wrong with the juwel filters, infact i think there fine, im just toping mine up so i can clean them one at a time and have more bio room, yes juwel take up loads of room and i guess it would be good to have extra swimming room, im keeping mine in and running both, the eheim ive chosen is for up to 200ltrs so when i upgrade to the juwel 260 i will use this as an add on also.

I'm Just thinking that i might as well get rid of the Juwel pump , i was going to leave the box in place , A to keep the heater in and B not sure how to remove the casing

Personally i preffer the 2215 for its simple no nonsence design and practicality but some people preffer the self priming pump handle of the ecco range, its a matter of personal prefference at the end of the day.


Juwel filters are one of the worst designed filters on the market, the fixed casing is difficult to clean and allows large amounts of sludge and debris to build up inside which causes nitrates to sky rocket. They are probably fine for what they were originally designed for, that is very lightly stocked densely planted tanks which are favoured in continental Europe (often referred to as Dutch style aquariums). The UK/American style of the hobby is more based around the fish and we tend to have much higher stocking levels than our continental cousins, the Juwel filters are not designed to cope with the higher bio load of such tanks and problems invariably start to form within 6 to 12 months.

The majority of Juwel tank owners on this forum have removed the Juwel filter box completely and replaced it with a more suitable filter.

You answered my next Question there !!! Are they easy to remove ? and what about the heater , should i get a better one ? or where do i put it once its out of the case ?

 

[Bloo]

I'm Just thinking that i might as well get rid of the Juwel pump , i was going to leave the box in place , A to keep the heater in and B not sure how to remove the casing
Are they easy to remove ? and what about the heater , should i get a better one ? or where do i put it once its out of the case ?

All your questions answered here!

Removal of a Juwel Internal Filter

Am I glad I made that thread - the number of times people ask that exact question I've lost count of.

 

[Number 1 Jasper]

I'm Just thinking that i might as well get rid of the Juwel pump , i was going to leave the box in place , A to keep the heater in and B not sure how to remove the casing
Are they easy to remove ? and what about the heater , should i get a better one ? or where do i put it once its out of the case ?

All your questions answered here!

Removal of a Juwel Internal Filter

Am I glad I made that thread - the number of times people ask that exact question I've lost count of.

Brilliant Bloo Brilliant

While you are on

Which external filter would YOU reccomend & what heater , might as well get one !


Mine is a Juwel Rio 125l tank