EMERGENCY HELP NEEDED!!!!

[bettas4ever]

Some more info for you all!

ack, can some one send me a sample picture of imflamed gills? I think I do see red parts but think I have seen that all the time. the gills breaths out and closes allright.

I think I'll lean more to interal parasite! where do I get methylene or maracyn two?!

snowflakes, I think they must be from the peas dissolving. I'll change the water again with peas & see if they appear again.

many thanks!!

 

[xxSarahxx]

She said she doesn't vaccuum........she should otrherwise the gunk won't be cleaned out of it and this can cause the planaria!

 

[bettas4ever]

Heres some more information to help you all out!

sorry! there's no gravels right now. since he's so weak, I'd not want him to lay down on them. too bumpy & crowdy for him. but I never use vaccuum anyway.

well, we gotta keep trying! I'm so thankful he's still breathing!! it has been those three long days for him - poor thing!!

 

[xxSarahxx]

Not getting anywhere with the pictures actually. Can't find anything on google images.
Is there a build up of mucus around the gills? I am really leaning towards old age (Bettas tend to live 2-4 years) or internal parasites.

Snowflakes could be planaria due to unclean gravel and overfeeding.
Is she UK or US or other situated as far as the maracyn goes.... I'll google those pictures for her now
DO apologise to her for all the questions and so on!! Just trying to help! Seeing all my posts on there is strange but reading them makes me think!!

Planaria are not overly dangerous to fish but a severe outbreak is a sign that there is too much left over food and the gravel isn't being cleaned enough. If the snowflake things wriggle on the side of the tank then they are PROBABLY planaria, if not then correct.....left over pea bits!!


EDIT: The entire post above needs to be copied over please!!!! So I've added a bit from an earlier post!

 

[bettas4ever]

well, I clean/change the water everytime I see anything dirty. weekly isn't good enough? why this time? I've had him for almost two years (november 2003), I don't understand.

at least right now, he's looking better than the first night found him laying & gasping for his life.

 

[xxSarahxx]

Weekly water changes are good but that won't stop the gunk collecting in the gravel.
I'm not critiscising Gina and am so glad that the betta is making progress I'm just trying to help.
It is difficult though.
What size is the tank? Does she have any form of filter in there?

EDIT: good about the no mucus.Do the gills look different at all to what she nomally sees? Inflamed, puffy? She'll be pleased to know I am running out of questions!!

 

[xxSarahxx]

my e-mail address is april_hippy85@hotmail.com
if she has msn I will be happy for her to add me and i can talk to her directly. if it will help at all

 

[black angel]

Gill colour should be cherry red. Any lighter and it could be ammonia/nitrite poisoning or anaemia.
Did she test for ammonia nitrite nitrate and ph? Also testing from the tap is a good idea too.
Still dont know what the set up is, we need the size of tank/vase and filtration used and how long its been running.
If shes only doing water changes once a week then it could be a bacterial disease.
Does she use water conditioners as well.
sorry if these have been asked already.

 

[bettas4ever]

okay, let me clear this up, I changed his water last night. without gravels. and the snowflakes just came up this afternoon.
that got me wonder if drapples tried to nibble a piece of pea?

by the way, should I not add bio-coat that add electrolites now? I'm afraid if I don't, it'll kill him.

 

[xxSarahxx]

hi gina!!!
Right....... possibly pea then! Don't worry about the planaria thing... not a critiscism although as your emotions are running high it probably felt like it and so I apologise!
Did you try and dangle a bloodworm or favourite food on his mouth as such with tweezers? I am trying everything!!
Post on your forum and I'll refresh the page and reply on here or use my above e-mail address for msn messenger if you have it

 

[black angel]

http/majesticbettas.com/diseases.htm

 

[bettas4ever]

oh dear! now this is overwhelming! as I'm typing/reading all of these on my pager screen and it wouldn't allow more than one window so I go forth, back & forth......!

I just emailed you, sarah, hope you got it! I don't have msn but ...(yay I got your email just now! will get to you in a minute!)

for everyone, right now the tank he's in is really small. before that, he was in a half gallon tank with filtration. but honestly, I don't think this has do something with gravels. for one, I throw out old gravels every 3-4 months because you know how moldy they get!

thank everybody so much.

 

[xxSarahxx]

she has also just e-mailed me that he appears to have a white bottom (anus I think!!)
I'm now leaning heavily to internal parasites. Please anyone else want to input on this!
EDIT: I don't think it has anything to do with the gravel as such......... that was just a possible explanation for the white things in the water.

 

[xxSarahxx]

Ah no!
She has just e-mailed me to say that there is white stuff all over the bottom part of his body....... the underpart.
Can you describe them more Gina please?

P.S. MODS - please please please please ignore this thread. She is using a pager device to look at this and can't sign up to the forum because of not being able to use java stuff or something!
This is the only way we can help her and more importantly her fish!

 

[black angel]

is it fungus or slime. need pics of it.