Ember/flame Tetra

[SeanTrollope]

what is the max number for a 10 gal?
what is the smallest number that can kept? 
do they school?
can you do a species tank?

 

[Antinerf]

1) I would not recommend putting more than 4 fish in a 10 gal tank once you factor in the decor and stuff that they need.
2) Personally I have kept two male swordtails together for a year so that depends. However, I would not keep one by himself since that would just be sad ;(
3) They do indeed school, and according to PetSmart they do so in groups of 5+ although I tend to find this number quite high, especially for a starting aquarium. Note that you should not add more than 3 fish at a time to your aquarium; I never add more than two.
4) I would guess that they'd be fine as one species and for a tank that small I wouldn't have two different species in small groups. Additionally, they are supposedly quite hardy.

Good luck!
Antinerf

 

[Alasse]

I would not keep flame tetras in a 10gal, so rule these guys out
 
You can keep ember tetras in a 10gal
5-6 would be suitable for a 10gal
Yes they school
Yes you can do a species tank

 

[SeanTrollope]

thanks but isnt a ember and flame tetra the same thing

 

[GoldenRoses]

Ember tetras (Hyphessobrycon amandae) and flame tetras (Hyphessobrycon flammeus) are two different fish. They are easily distinguished between each other by the flame tetra ' black stripe that runs vertile down the front end of the body, usually across the eye. Flame tetras also grow quite a bit larger than petite little embers, and can be more boisterous.

Ember tetras would be much more suited to a 10 gallon tank. They are highly dependent on having a school, and I would not keep less than 6 specimens in a group. Because they hardly reach one inch in length and are considered one of the less active tetras, up to 8 in a 10 gallon is still permitted.

They're very quiet fish, so they would thrive in a species only tank. Just be sure you have plenty of bushy plants for them to hide in. And with most tetras, a low pH is recommended.

 

[SeanTrollope]

i think im gonna do 7 ember tetras 

 

[Byron]

I would add a couple more, say 9 minimum.  I have had a group of this species (the Ember, Hyphessobrycon amandae, just to avoid any confusion) for many years, and find that they are better with more rather than fewer.  They remain very small, and even 12 in a 10g would not be problematic if you are regular with water changes and have some live plants even if nothing more than floating.  You could add some lower fish, one of the "dwarf" cory species, too if you like.  I had a 10g set up for over a year with 9 pygmy corys, 9 Boraras brigittae (which are pretty much the same in size and biological impact as Embers) and even shrimp (accidental, they arrived in with the corys).  This tank was an experiment of sorts, as it had no filter, no light (was in a south window), just a heater, and relied on the plants for filtration plus the weekly partial water change of half the tank.  Fish were fine, and plants did well, though controlling algae with variable daylight is a challenge.
 
Byron.

 

[SeanTrollope]

it is a fully planted cycled and over filtered tank 
 
it has gravel that in not suited for for cories and i don't want to disturb the tank and have to re cycle it 

 

[smudge_]

bumping an olidsh thread, but I picked up some of these guys yesterday.
 
The shop sold them in 5's, so that's what I got for the time being as I didn't want to add too many fish at once,  I will probably up that to 10 at some point.  I had intended to get Neons but when I was in the store I remembered Byron has mentioned Embers and thought why not? 
 
Lovely little fish, started swimming around happily the second they were put in the tank while all the other fish were cowering at the bottom.  Very pretty fish and a bit different to the Neons.   Id prefer rummynose but they need more space, so im fairly happy with the Embers