Eel Emergency!? Plzz Help!

and i had this as well with an oscar, everybody told me it was columnaris i did everything they told me and it still wouldnt go away until several weeks later the oscar was tired of the treatment that it jumped from the stress and died

Thanks for info,
He looks better.... in terms of the ulcers. But at the same time looks more stressed out to me... I guess the treatment is getting to him, he is breathing heavily too. I put more air into the tank, he seems to come down a bit. I read that antibiotics drive oxygen from the water. Just waiting and observing...
Also, im almost done with the first treatment cycle, when should i repeat the treatment? It says on the pack, treatment should be repeated if necessary... but doesn't say how soon?
Should i start right a way and be aggressive, or wait a bit and give the Eel a brake?

Thanks, :good:
 
I'd see how he is, if he's looking stressed I'd do a water change, run some carbon and give him a break for at least 24 hours.

How are the ulcers? Are they still red and fungusy or pink and healing?
 
Hey,
I got more pics of him. These are a bit closer, maybe they would help. Please take a look.
Also his heavy breathing is making me concerned. His mouth is wide open like that.... Is that normal??


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In the place of the white skin patches before you could see the red flesh. So i guess, the wounds are closing up. There is a couple more open ones on the other side. I could not take a pick though. Also on the top of the pic that white substance in a form of a curvy line is bothering me, it goes almost along his whole body in patches on one side. What is that?
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How are the ulcers? Are they still red and fungusy or pink and healing?

Um the open ones look pink by the way... :) i guess its a good thing.
 
What are your water stats?

He's not looking too good, right now I'd be more concerned about the gasping than the ulcers. I'm sure Wilder will advise but I'd do a water change, lights out and increase oxygen again.
 
What are your water stats?

He's not looking too good, right now I'd be more concerned about the gasping than the ulcers. I'm sure Wilder will advise but I'd do a water change, lights out and increase oxygen again.

Will do right away!
 
Dilute the med down with a water change.
Let me know how he is after that.

He might be to weak for the med.
The stress won't be helping.

Does it say what the med contains. Checked the med out and it sounds fine.
 
This looks a lot like the opportunistic skin infection I mention every time someone talks about spiny eels. It's very, very common and appears to be related to skin abrasions. It's the prime reason I always say spiny eels should not be kept in tanks with gravel. Water quality may well exacerbate problems, and there's some experience that says adding a tiny amount of salt (about 6-12 grammes per 10 litres, according to Baensch) may be beneficial to spiny eel maintenance in some way, perhaps because it detoxifies nitrite and nitrate. I'm very concerned about the lava rocks used: these are highly abrasive, and would be precisely the kind of thing I'd avoid with spiny eels. You really want to be using floating plants (to stop jumping), smooth sand (for digging), and hollow ceramic ornaments such as pipes (for burrows). While some get away with ignoring these things and doing something else, I wouldn't recommend it.

In any case, once the eel gets to this point, you're dealing with a systemic bacterial infection. In the US, I'd initially go with something like Maracyn, Aquarium Products Furanase, Seachem Paraguard, etc. In the UK your range of options is more limited because antibiotics such as those are only available from a vet. It's worth contacting a vet though and explaining the problem; to be brutally frank, while you certainly could use an antibacterial (eSHa 2000 being my favourite) the chances of such medications working is substantially less than an antibiotic.

The gasping is "merely" a symptom of severe stress, and will go away once the fish is better.

Cheers, Neale

I got more pics of him. These are a bit closer, maybe they would help. Please take a look.
Also his heavy breathing is making me concerned. His mouth is wide open like that.... Is that normal??
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Dilute the med down with a water change.
Let me know how he is after that.

He might be to weak for the med.
The stress won't be helping.

Does it say what the med contains. Checked the med out and it sounds fine.

yea i just came back from the fish shop, they told me that FURAN-2 is quite a strong med. So, ive been advised not to even put the 4th dose in. He is on the 3rd dose now, SHOULD I CONTINUE or not? The med is 60 mg Nitrofurazone and 25 mg Furazolidone.
Ill do a slight water change, and let you know.
 
This looks a lot like the opportunistic skin infection I mention every time someone talks about spiny eels. It's very, very common and appears to be related to skin abrasions. It's the prime reason I always say spiny eels should not be kept in tanks with gravel. Water quality may well exacerbate problems, and there's some experience that says adding a tiny amount of salt (about 6-12 grammes per 10 litres, according to Baensch) may be beneficial to spiny eel maintenance in some way, perhaps because it detoxifies nitrite and nitrate. I'm very concerned about the lava rocks used: these are highly abrasive, and would be precisely the kind of thing I'd avoid with spiny eels. You really want to be using floating plants (to stop jumping), smooth sand (for digging), and hollow ceramic ornaments such as pipes (for burrows). While some get away with ignoring these things and doing something else, I wouldn't recommend it.

In any case, once the eel gets to this point, you're dealing with a systemic bacterial infection. In the US, I'd initially go with something like Maracyn, Aquarium Products Furanase, Seachem Paraguard, etc. In the UK your range of options is more limited because antibiotics such as those are only available from a vet. It's worth contacting a vet though and explaining the problem; to be brutally frank, while you certainly could use an antibacterial (eSHa 2000 being my favourite) the chances of such medications working is substantially less than an antibiotic.

The gasping is "merely" a symptom of severe stress, and will go away once the fish is better.

Cheers, Neale

Thank you for your reply,
Yeas i've read about the abrasive decorations in the tank. The lava rock is going right now! Another issue is the gravel. I have a very fine gravel in my 75 gal tank. For the couple days that he stayed there i haven't seen him burry himself even ones. He's quite a curious little champ. He is other hiding in a cave with his head sticking out, or standing vertically on his tale between the plants posing as a lief:) As soon as he gets better, i will let him in the 75 gal tank and see how he behaves. If he decides that burrowing himself is his new hobby ill definitely switch to sand. Also i will check the tank for other sharp objects.
Another issue is the fact that he came in from the shop with this curse, and me not knowing what might caused it, im just doing the best i can.
Also, what do you think of FURAN-2 (60 mg Nitrofurazone and 25 mg Furazolidone) instead Maracyn. I have been advised that it works better. I live in US what other products might help?

Im sorry, i think i wasn't clear enough about the gasping... he just has his mouth open wide at all times. Ummm, breathing heavy, i would say.
Is that the same? hopefully its just the stress.

Thank you again :good:
 
Should work well.

Cheers, Neale

Another issue is the fact that he came in from the shop with this curse, and me not knowing what might caused it, im just doing the best i can.
Also, what do you think of FURAN-2 (60 mg Nitrofurazone and 25 mg Furazolidone) instead Maracyn. I have been advised that it works better. I live in US what other products might help?
 
Dilute the med down with a water change.
Let me know how he is after that.

Did a water change, his wounds seem to be better, they are closing up.
The fish itself is not looking to great. He seems to be a bit disoriented, less active. Still breathing heavily, and doesn't even bother to hide anymore.
 
Is he still eating.
It's not sounding to good.
Did you add any med back after the water change.
 
Is he still eating.
It's not sounding to good.
Did you add any med back after the water change.

Nop. Didnt add any meds after the water change. :sad: You know, also the skin around couple of the wounds seems to be a bit swollen.
Yea, hes not looking to good. He is not eating. All curled up in a corner.
### it, cant believe hes gona quit on me.... :-(
 
Oh no, sorry to hear that. You did everything you could though. :sad:
 

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