Dwarf or Honey?

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JackDemp528

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I have a 35 gallon tank, that is now vacant, after the passing of my great JD... :( After a terrible run with HITH, that I couldn't cure. It turned out that he had it when the guy before me had him, and it was too far along for me to fix him. But I want to plant the tank, and then get some type of gourami, if not two. I know that I want to have some cory's in there too, but what's the best solution. I know I want gouramis, but what else could I have.
 
Have you decided on what kind of gourami?

In the title you've mentioned honey and dwarf gouramies. You COULD have both but I'd personaly go for honeys.

Though dwarf gouramies are lovely and very colorful, they can be susceptible to many more diseases and healthy ones are often hard to come across. They come in several color morphs so be sure to not confuse them with honey gouramies as the common names are often used inter-changeable. Look for colisa lalia if you're after the dwarf. Females are also sometimes quite difficult to get hold of, not to mention they grow larger than honeys.

Honeys, on the other hand, aren't all that colorful - at least not when young. Males eventualy color up and become a stunning honey-gold with a blue-black underside. There are, of course, several color morphs to choose from. In most the males still develop this lovely coloring when in breeding condition. The wild female color is a brownish-beige with a distinct horizontal line running along the body. Honeys look more delicate and are smaller than dwarfs but they are also a lot hardier. The scientific name is colisa chuna or colisa sota (both are used).

If you want both species, I'd go for a single male dwarf with a trio of honeys (1 male, 2 females). Dwarf males aren't particularly social fish and grow to about 2". Honeys, especialy the females, on the other hand, do well with some company. They get to 1.5". Having said that, both male dwarf gouramies and male honeys are territorial fish. Single males do absolutely fine with no other gourami tankmates for company and, similarly, keeping too many males in close proximity elads to problems.

If you go for dwarfs, either get 2-3 males and decorate quite heavily to allow for distinct territories to be set up or get a trio (1 male, 2 females) if you can get hold of any girls. Though the females aren't as brightly colored, they are still quite an attractive fish. If cared for properly and healthy, they can have quite a range of colors on them themselves - even if they are just irridesence on a silvery background.

If you go for what I think is best and get honeys, I'd either go for a trio or 2 males with 3 females.

Make sure any gouramies you include are added at the same time and it's best that they are all of a similar size.

As for other tankmates, cories are an excellent choice. Not only do they occupy a completely difefrent area of the tank, they are also mostly ignored by guramies and, in return, are perfectly peaceful. All I'd sugegst is to make sure you're keeping them in a large enough group and to keep in mind that they can get to 2", some species even bigger, and so watch you don't end up over-stocked. With fish like cories and these small gouramies, the inch per gallon guideline is a useful tool if you are uncertain.

From this point onwards, pretty much any small, peaceful species of fish works fine as a tankmate. Make sure they don't nip and ensure they are kept in the right numbers. I personaly would suggest some kind of schooling tetra or rasbora. Harlequin rasboras would make a great tankmate as they are colorful and school tightly. Alternatively, black phantom tetras would work equaly well and are entertaining fish to watch. Small danios also work but are not the best choice in this instance because they also like the upper water layers - competing with the gouramies for space. If, however, you were to end up with just one or two gouramies, small danios (like the common zebra or leopard), are lovely choices. Small livebearers like platies or guppies, endler's or swordtails also work but keep them in the correct sex ratios. I avoid mollies as they tend to dislike gouramies and grow larger than most other common livebearer species. Avoid fish like tiger barbs and black skirt/widow or serpae tetras that are likely to nip your gouramies' feelers and I'd also steer clear from anything particularly aggressive such as red tailed black sharks or pairs of relatively aggressive breeding cichlids. Though they CAN work with these gouramies, they create a stressful environment for them which usualy leads to problems. Obviously, don't get anything like bala sharks or clown loaches (or common plecs) which will out-grow the tank and stay as far away from CAEs as possible as gouramies are especialy prone to being sucked on by these fish. :p

BTW, make sure you cycle the tank first as, if there are no fish in it now, the good bacteria will have all died out.

Hopefuly I haven't repeated stuff you already know too many times :p Let us know what it is you end up choosing. Good luck regardless. :)
 
Thanks for all of the info, when I find out what I'm going to do I'll let you know.
 
hey you could go with Honey Dwarfs, all in the same old fish

Colisa Chuna (Sota) -not exactly sure why sota is in parenthasis.


I have a pair, they're great, pretty hardy.

my female gauramis

Movie of my male he was a bit hyper, he's chilled out after being put on time out :rofl:

Either way if you want to breed, I have alos came up with a way to deal with surface agitation here

if you would like more pics let me know, I have a new camera and I like putting it to use from time to time. (though I'm no expert photographer)
 

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