Dr Tim's One And Only Bacteria Starter

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JellOh

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I have a few questions about Dr Tim's One and Only Bacteria Starter.

- Does it work?
- How long does it take?
- Can I use it with a fishless cycle?
- Have any of you guys used it before?
- If yes, how we'll did it work?
- Is it better than Tetra Safe Start?

I'm setting up a 5 gallon shrimp tank soon and I really don't want to wait weeks before being able to put fish in.
 
Who is Dr Tim and is this a real product?
 
Thanks for the link. Personally I would stick with the one and only concentrated Ammonia (eBay), and let the magical mysterious bacteria take it's course! lol
 
Thanks KirkyArcher! I think I'm going to try it once I get all my plants set up.

coolie- I cycle my three small betta tanks that way, but I'm growing so impatient, and if there is a faster way I'd like to try it out.
 
DaizeUK had some good results from it after struggling through the fishless cycle.
 
if you do use it, please start a thread here to journal your results.  And then, maybe a review.
 
It is important to follow the directions. I hope he won't object to having them quoted here:
 
 
Using DrTim’s Aquatics One & Only Live Bacteria:
 
The best and easiest way to fishless cycle is to combine adding the ammonium chloride with our Live Nitrifying bacteria. When used in combination, these will cycle the tank in less than one week. Again, do not add too much ammonia. We make it easy by providing a bottle of reagent grade ammonium chloride that is at a concentration such that adding 1 drop of solution to 1 gallon of aquarium water will result in an ammonia-nitrogen concentration of 2 mg/L (ppm).
 
The procedure is to add the ammonium chloride solution, shake the bottle of nitrifying bacteria well and add it to the aquarium. Measure ammonia and nitrite the next day and record. Add ½ dose and wait 24 hours and measure again. By day 5 to 7, you should be able to add 1 drop per gallon and the next day, ammonia and nitrite will be 0.
 
Troubleshooting:
The three biggest problems with fishless cycling are 1) cloudy water, which may even smell, when doing the cut shrimp method, 2) when dosing with ammonium chloride, letting the ammonia and/or nitrite getting too high and 3) a low pH value.
 
The cloudy water will eventually clear up but you can add a natural organic remover like DrTim’s Waste-Away to speed up the decay process. You can also change the water. Many people mistakenly think the cloudy white water is a nitrifying bacteria bloom but that is wrong. Nitrifying bacteria cannot grow fast enough to cloud the water.
 
The high ammonia or nitrite concentration (which by the way can sometimes occur in the shrimp method) is a problem because high levels of ammonia or nitrite inhibit the nitrifying bacteria. You need to change the water to reduce the ammonia and nitrite to get the cycle going again.
 
Also, if you decided not to use our Live Nitrifying Bacteria in the beginning and now want to add some to speed up the process, you need to make sure the ammonia and nitrite concentrations are under 5 mg/L-N before adding the One & Only Live Nitrifying bacteria.
 
The other big problem is that the cycling process seems to stall with ammonia or nitrite not dropping anymore. Usually this is due to a low pH value (less than 7.0). The conversion of the ammonia and nitrite by the bacteria naturally produces an acid that will lower the water pH. If the pH gets too low, however, the nitrification (cycling) process will stop. So if you add a lot of ammonia over the course of a week and get the cycling cranking, you can actually cause the pH to drop to a low value and ‘stall’ the entire process. The way to get the cycling going again is to simply do a 25 to 20% water change. This will increase the pH and usually gets the cycling process going again.
 
Lastly, do not add ammonia-removing products as this just complicates the process – let nature take its course and your tank will be ready for fish.
from http://www.drtimsaquatics.com/
 
 
Dr. Tim is Dr. Timothy Hovanec-
 
Comparative Analysis of Nitrifying Bacteria Associated with Freshwater and Marine Aquaria. Applied and Environmental Microbiology Vol. 62, No. 8: 2888-2896.  Hovanec, T. A. and E. F. DeLong. 1996.
 
Nitrospira- Like Bacteria Associated with Nitrite Oxidation in Freshwater Aquaria. Applied and Environmental Microbiology Vol. 64, No. 1: 258-264. Hovanec, T. A., L. T. Taylor, A. Blakis and E. F. DeLong. 1998.
 
Identification of Bacteria Responsible for Ammonia Oxidation in Freshwater Aquaria. Applied and Environmental Microbiology, Dec. 2001, p. 5791-5800. Paul C. Burrell, Carol M. Phalen, and Timothy A. Hovanec.
 
I've been wondering about this stuff too. I'm thinking about ordering some to cycle my sorority tank. If I do this, I'll document my results for everyone. JellOh, you should do the same so that we could compare results.
 
Sorry, I forgot to answer your Qs-
 
- Does it work? Yes.
- How long does it take? About a week. (See above instructions.)
- Can I use it with a fishless cycle? Yes. (See above instructions.)
- Have any of you guys used it before? Yes, on several occasions.
- If yes, how we'll did it work? As expected.
- Is it better than Tetra Safe Start? They are similar as they were once the same company, so to speak. Both should work. I have not used TSS.
 
TSS is less cost I believe. I would still choose Dr. Tim's personally if both are available.
 
I have bought a bottle of one and only. I am 10 weeks into my fish in cycle and I am not seeing any nitrite levels at all. Ammonia sits at 0 for 4-5 days then it starts reading 0.25 around day 5. I leave the reading for a day or two then do a WC.
I have read a lot about this product and all reviews seem good.
 
I bought a bottle and I promise to make a journal once I start cycling my tank. I'm feeling very optimistic that I can get this tank set up before the end of summer.
 
I swear TwoTank has some sort of "DrTim" alarm, so when anyone types in "Dr Tim", he gets a SMS or a klaxxon goes off in his house or something. :rofl:
 
I keep getting mixed up with Dr Tim and Dr Rob.
 
I betcha Rob wishes he could swap bank accounts with Dr Tim!
 

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