Does Everything Have To Cost Us An Arm And A Leg.

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Hi all,
Years back people still kept tropical fish and there wasn't the amount of potions and lotions on the shelves in the pet shops as there is today and people still managed, so i want to pose a challenge, what can we buy elsewhere other than a pet shop that doesn't cost us an arm and a leg, or what can we do differently and achieve the same outcome. For instance i remember an old boy in Norfolk once told me that the best way to start a new tank off was to dribble a bit of pee on your hand when you go to the toilet, then dip your hand in the new tank water and add just a very small amount of fish food and this will start the cycle.
Sand gets me, £1 per small 1k bag in the shop and you can buy a big 25k bag of playsand from a builders yard or Early Learning Centre and it will cost you less than £4 for a 25k bag, it's the same stuff (silver sand), or silicate sand is another one.
We can make some of our own foods like beefheart and liver and add vitamins, egg yolk, spirulina, spinach, parsley and so on blitz it all, add agar agar and gelatine and freeze it down, we can buy earthworms from a tackle shop or dig them up from non polluted land and blitz them, add vitamins and agar agar then freeze them down and break off bits to feed to the fish. We can culture white worms and brine shrimp. Instead of paying a fortune for Blackwater extract we can buy Ketang leaves from Singapore, a tenners worth will last a year for a discus tank and give you blackwater at a fraction of the cost, half a gallon of blackwater extract is nearly £50 to buy from the shop. So things like that is what i'm after, lets keep more money in our pockets for buying fish. What could we use for backgrounds and decor, insulation anything you can think of please add to this post
 
yeah in fishkeeping you have to look out for these things and companies can be very crafty. Look in the diy section for ideas, there are loads in there, personally, ive made my own 2 story fish tank rach with 3 tank on it, that would have cost me a bomb if i had to buy it, especially if i had to buy 3 seperate stands for each tank. in the diy section there are things like diy moonlights, filters, stands, co2 kits etc.
As a general rule of thumb, anything with the word "aquarium" on the label whacks the price up for some reason, so go for pond stuff, two things you can get that are designed for ponds but work just as well in aquariums and is 10x cheaper is dechlorinator, its cheaper and lasts longer as its more concentrated, another thing that i personally use is root tabs designed for pond plants, again, its cheaper. I'm sure there are many more :good:
 
It's the same with any hobby- no reason why you can't go fishing with a worm on the end of a bit of string :p Most stuff is aimed at inexperienced fishkeepers- a lot will have had experiences of 'fish die very easily', mainly brought on by uncycled tanks- it's easy for them to think or be told that it was because their pH was too high (buys a bottle of pH adjuster), their nitrates were too high (nitrate absorbing media), they used playsand instead of sand from the shop (lots of expensive bags of sand).

For the basic setup, buy a second hand tank (which often comes with most equipment) or scour local dumps (I boguht my 3x1x1 for £3). A stand is easy to DIY- it won't cost a great deal, you can make it to your own specs and you can have multiple tanks. Filter, it's best to buy- homemade ones are usually only worthwile for fry tanks. Same with heaters. Hood, DIY. Substrate, any DIY store will have bags big enoughto last you most of your fishkeeping career. Lighting, unless you're going for a planted tank, ambient room light is more than enough. Plants can be bought at low prices from cuttings off other people. Wood, rocks etc, can be found in the environment. Pond dechlorinator, meds etc. Food, collect your own, make your own, 'teva.
 
I discovered by accident that pond meds work ok - they are more concentrated but melafix pond is cheaper then tank.

I paid loads from my sand. humph. -_-

its true this is an expensive habit......

will check out the pond dechlor cheers

GFG
 
This is only expensive for me through quantity.

I saved an absolute fortune by buying two 150W Metal Halide lamps and ballasts for £70 from ebay. Another £40 and I have a 2x150W MH setup. Check out how much the Arcadia sets will set you back (here's a hint, don't expect much change from £500).

If you avoid anything with the word aquarium then you are laughing. I bought industrial T5 starters and saved a packet there. I drill all my own tanks and pick up second hand tanks and filters and even make my own Live Rock from time to time. Utilising pond Dechlor saves a fortune on water changes at around 100 gallons a week.

So to answer the topic question, the only thing that has to cost an arm and a leg is getting into very rare and expensive fish ;)
 
Andy's got it spot on.

I use pond dechlor when I can't get Prime by seachem, and I use pond filter media for my cannisters. A big white sheet the size of half a bedsheet costs less than a juwel white floss..

Use tea tree oil for melafix.

Sand from argos.

Buckets and siphons from wilkinson (check the home brew section. Not only because making your own beer is cheap, but because if you look at the siphons, they're a lot cheaper than a gravel vac, and if you get one with a tap you can do drip acclimation dead easy...

Basically, avoid anything made specially for aquarists.
 
So to answer the topic question, the only thing that has to cost an arm and a leg is getting into very rare and expensive fish ;)

Looks up from painting her common plec black and white stripes....and wonders how long it'll take folks to cotton on that he's not your typical 3" zebra...
 
I've used pond declorinator was alot cheaper, but I don't go to that lfs no more.
Don't buy them juwel white filter pads expensive, I just buy a bag of mating alot cheaper.
 
For tea tree melafix add 1ml of pure tea tree oil to 500ml of R/O or distilled water in a lidded container and then shake vigourously for 1 minute before each use.
 
Instead of paying a fortune for Blackwater extract we can buy Ketang leaves from Singapore, a tenners worth will last a year for a discus tank and give you blackwater at a fraction of the cost
Where?Grocery stores?
 
I've only bought melafix once and that was a few weeks back and it was £7 and not that impressed with it.
 
I've only bought melafix once and that was a few weeks back and it was £7 and not that impressed with it.




I swear by it, think its great, especially on Goldfish and Bettas.

whats the beer siphoning stuff am confused. but need a new Gravel vac(bigger for a bigger tank!!!!!)
 

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