DISCUS ? Genral infomation

[abstract]

yea, its def. a better idea to scare anyone from posting anything on the forum CFC i used to accept and respect your word and advice on things, but after having admitted to being arrogant when it comes to your mod power, all that respect has been lost....hope you're having a better day today, and reconsider your decision on nc nutcase, who is equally as helpful as you usually are

and a quick edit after rereading the thread: the part where you come off as nasty (and i also thought it was pretty nasty before anyone complained), is when you ask wrs how many discus he has kept in his tanks and shootdown his advice instead of maybe posting to an expert article on discus care, for example? there are so many better ways than publicly chastising an individual, whether you've had to do it before or not

 

[Ben]

What a misuse of power!!! Hate it!!

It was YOU CFC who was rude and arrogant! Not him. He should not be suspended at all.

Who says you cannot comment on things unless you have not tried them. It is perfectly normal to quote an expert about things, happens everywhere in life. Otherwise only professional football players could talk about professional football?? Only polititians can comment on politics? Where is the fun in that.

Basically what I think NC is trying to say is that it is possible to talk about things without being rude and arrogant.

Maybe CFC is right but he can be so without being so damn rude!

And what is extremely rude is when a moderator uses his power to suspend a member because he showed him a lesson! It shows how small a person that moderator really is. I dont think NC cares anyway being suspended by a such an ass...

As NC would say.....

Have a GREAT day!!!

yea, its def. a better idea to scare anyone from posting anything on the forum CFC i used to accept and respect your word and advice on things, but after having admitted to being arrogant when it comes to your mod power, all that respect has been lost....hope you're having a better day today, and reconsider your decision on nc nutcase, who is equally as helpful as you usually are

wow.

its like a fly going into a window over and over again.
they just don't learn...
nc got his posting rights disabled for being rude to a moderator
what makes you think you wont, and you were way more rude then nc

can this be closed yet?
i have a feeling it might spill into something bad

DD

 

[CFC]

yea, its def. a better idea to scare anyone from posting anything on the forum CFC i used to accept and respect your word and advice on things, but after having admitted to being arrogant when it comes to your mod power, all that respect has been lost....hope you're having a better day today, and reconsider your decision on nc nutcase, who is equally as helpful as you usually are

My arrogance has nothing to do with my mod powers, i would give out the same advise and post in exactly the same way whether i had mod powers or not, my arogance comes from the confidence of my own knowledge.
I rarely ever use my controls for anything other than editing signatures to within the rules and moving threads about when they are out of place, but when a member which is known to the moderating staff as a trouble maker decides to insult me with name calling then i will use my powers to their full extent.
Im sorry if anyone feels i have stepped out of line but i stand by my judgement and my comments.

 

[abstract]

i don't condem your decisions whatsoever - they give you those powers for a reason - just suggesting a possible better way of 1) approaching bad advice (disprove them by linking to expert knowledge) and 2) approaching people who are trying to defend others (whether they call you an ass or not - i mean what is this, high school?) ... people take offense easily online, so don't give them another reason to...

 

[bengals]

Not a teenager, not a newbie, just a newbie to this forum.

NC has been great, very informative. One of the best guys to post on this forum along with Sylvia and others.

I was saddened that he has been suspended just because of your arrogance CFC.

 

[CFC]

Did i mention your name? WRS is a teenager and a relative newbie to the hobby, try to read the posts before posting

And nc nutcase was suspended for twice deliberately using insulting language and for no other reason.

 

[digital_run]

This is getting out of hand...And making new accounts just to insult or get the last word in is kind of pathetic.

You should close this thread...He's been banned for obvious reasons that the majority would agree with.

Glad im not a mod But im glad for the ones we have.

 

[Jer-]

as i have read before in the newbies section, the number of posts on this forum does NOT reflect the members knowlege on tropical fish. and what does the number of post have to do with ANYTHING when posting posts??!! NEWBIES are EQUALLY powered to post their own opinions on this PUBLIC site!

is there a definition of Bashing?
from what i have read, rudely (as u have admitted CFC) correcting others is also a form of bashing, may it be direct or not.


what u have said CFC,
"nc nutcase (screen name fits the character)"

is clearly a form of bashing!
NO RULE that i have read states that one can bash another after the other has Bashed him or her.

the Bluntness of ur corrections to WRCs advice is IMO is unproffesional, as in the future someone who has read this thread may not take WRCs advice seriously anymore whether it be right or wrong. Heck, the forum is supposed to BE the "friendliest forum around" aint it?

and yes you may come back at me and say that i am bashing you indirectly, it is only becos that a MOD has violated this rule and doesnt know it that i posted.

 

[bunjiweb]

Some of you kids need to quickly grow up.... It seems that some of you can't face the truth about some fish, and some professional advice from an experienced fish keeper.

If you can't, then dont bother posting in the thread, and dont get involved at all... Its common sense.

Ben

 

[andywg]

There is no "professional" advice on here. It is a forum for people who have experince/knowledge to help those who do not.

It seems to me that people do get rebutted by CFC when they give out bad advice. Then they try and start a verbal slugging match with him.

I have dealt with CFC a number of times and have found his information to be nothing short of the best. He himself admits that he could deliver his information a bit better, but then maybe other members could receive criticism a bit better...BUT, I challenge anyone to find a more knowledgeable person on catfish in particular and almost every other fish he has come accross.

To be honest, what would you rather have:

Wrong information all pretty wrapped in nice words?

Or

Correct information dealt to you in a stone cold hammer blow that makes you pay attention to it?

Sorry to moan, but the mindless CFC bashing of the past 2-3 months is getting really old and sad.

Andy

 

[Cat]

Wow and they say general chat caused fights

If people ask advice and a mod sees the wrong advice been given,he will step in and correct them.CFC is one of the most experienced on here ,he only gives good advice and the way some on here are going on about him is a disgrace.
Tell you a story,


I wanted get my own back on CFC once,so I made a new name asked a question knowing he would try to help me,I kept asking him stuff, that was so pathetic,but he kept trying to help me he never lost his temper once just kept answering me.

Listen to his advice.

 

[Jer-]

what about

Correct information dealt to you in a nice way?

Im sure a nice way is as effective as a stone cold hammer blow.

i havnt followed the "CFC bashings". But i was jus suprised to see his bluntness for the first time.

 

[Link]

As a guide you should allow 10 gallons of water per Discus. This will also be ok for them when they reach adult which in my experience is rarely 12". Most Discus including wild Discus normally only reach an adult size of about 8".
Four to five fish in a tank that size shouldnt be a problem. Just make sure that the mainentance is carried out and the filtration is adequate.
Discus are by nature shoaling fish so like to be kept in groups when they are juveniles. Four to five juveniles should be ok until they reach about 3 inches in length but then will either need rehoming or moving to a larger tank. The tanks size will be fine for an adult pair.

Most Discus breeders use two foot tanks for breeding but the tanks are slightly higher than normal, often 15-18" to allow for the height of the fish.

Neons have and can be kept with Discus no problem. Cardinals do handle the high temps better and are slightly more colourful which is why they are more often used.
Most species of tetras will happily live ok with Discus without any problems.

 

[imouse]

Oh well, So much for finding some valuable information about Discus, Seems like the original question has been forgotten.
Think i'll look elsewhere.

Oh, and i've only posted a few times but have kept tanks for over 9 years, Discus included. If I ever made a mistake in a posting, I would expect a pm asking to correct it rather than a public comment, but thats me.

mouse


Edit, thanks Link, Accurate info!!

 

[wrs]

just because i am a teenager doesnt mean that i dont know stuff about fish. There are some teeens on here that know alot about certain things. I believe that I know alot when it comes to cvertain things, cichlids are not my best, yet I do know some info on certain ones.

I admit that i dont know that much about discus, but passed along what an expert said, and this was to not just one person, but all the subscribers to the magazine. When someone is an expert you should be able to trust what they say, but after reading a new artical about bacteria making the fish aggressive, I doubt what he says. Well this artical says that if you have too much bacteria, I dont recall if any type was specifically said, that it would cause the fish to be mean. I know now that they do get territorial to reachother after paired. Plus in a diffrent question he said that rams are good tank mates, now all over a sudden they are not? Huh? That was about the blue rams. So I have learned that justy because you are an "expert" doesnt mean that you actually are.

But I also have to say that when some one wants info on a fish, say the convict cichlid, you could give the basic info about it with out having it, as you can read and resurch things like that on the net.

I would have appreciated it if the correction was done nicer, but oh well.

at the end I am not mad or hurt by what CFC said, this is a fish forum and you dop what is best for the fish. But I also think that you should be kind to the people as well, so that they come back and will have this place to help them not make mistakes, as we all know that books, the net and thelfs people are not always correct.