Discus & Angels

[nuttyfishgirl]

anybody got any pics of an angel and discus tank

Your wish is my command

Definitely the best discus/angels/planted tank I've ever come across...

Enjoy...

wow wow and wow again

 

[Discus man]

yes angels and discus will get along i did it as i wanted them both as i like them both but the angels were eating my neons so i got rid of them, They will be fine together and why not they come from the same part of the world!
and can i ask ryan somethign why have you got arcadia T5s on a discus tank? Unless there is enough shade (there is at the back but not at the front) the discus will be scared as they dont like that much light, They are not my discus but i think your tank is far too bright to keep discus in, (they are marine lights after all)

I managed to flush this pic of the forum from when you was not on, It was in when the discus was in but as you can see it was feeding time and they do get to the top faster. I loved them together and i still would have had them if they didnt eat my neons.

Nothing bad said here aswell the website you told us about had some great stuff in it but the part on lights alot of people dont know that you need shade for your discus shade or no plants they a refering to keeping discus in a none planed light bearing down tank THIS IS WRONG discus need plants if there is lights on.

 

[ryan]

Right first of all that is not my Discus and Angel tank, I do not own one such tank. That was just an example I found to demonstrate it had been done. However, I don't think your views on lighting/planting are completely correct. When Discus first came into the hobby, the only fish that could be kept were wild caught. Now, generation after generation of tank-bred discus fish has lead to a hardier fish that are more commonly used to high lighting levels, tanks surronded by levels of high activity, and even being housed in local tap water.

You say that

discus need plants if there is lights on.

Not true, alot of breeders and specalist keepers will keep their fish in bare bottom tanks with no furniture, this often enables Discus to find food better and often leads to larger specimens. If you wish to keep plants however, you will need bright lighting to a certain level or the plants won't flourish. I do not like it when people claim that Discus are such delicate fish, yes they're are delicate and should be treated with care but they are very capable of living in a well planted tank with high lighting if they have been tank bred for generations and hundreds of people probably keep them in just a way. Wild caught Discus are a different matter ofcourse and ideally they should be provided with a low-level lighting tank in which the water contains the tanins of bogwood etc making it the famous tea colour.

You also say

They will be fine together and why not they come from the same part of the world!

You do know that in the wild Angels and Discus do not co-excist together don't you? Discus originate from different areas of South America, they live in shaded waters that are heavily leeched with tanins from leaves and wood creating the tea colour, because of this there is little or no plant life that can survive. The water is also of a higher temperature and the tanins that leech into make it more acidic creating the tanin coloured, soft, warm and acidic water they are renound for coming from.

Angels originate elsewhere in South America from still or slow-moving streams and river tributaries of the Amazon Basin and Guyana River. These streams and tributaries are often covered with reeds and algae. They are also found in flooded areas, such waters are filled with plant flora unlike the Discus fishes home.

 

[dartos]

Here is a very useful page for information on Discus -

http/members.aol.com/bgdiscus/wholepag.htm

:bookmarked:

Thank you for the webpage. That looks exactly like the kind of resource I need.

Those tank pictures are amazing. Talk about inspiration.

 

[Discus man]

well i am sorry i have wild caught that is why i gave this info as that is what i reserched.

 

[ryan]

No problems, very understandable. But I think a new Discus keeper is more likely to start out with captive breed specimens given the availability and price range, you sound more experienced.

Out of interest which strain do you have? Any pictures?

 

[Discus man]

I have 1 blue diamond (one died over nitrate spike over night)

2 of these

1 of these (think it is a piqion blood) and one died over nitrate spike over night sorted it out i was realy sad about it

 

[chris allsop]

Agree with the above, WOW

 

[Chaz]

I am just about to switch to discus. With exactly the same tank (rio 180) my question being that i was told that discus could NOT live with angels because of food. I have never found out wether this was true but angels with neaons is from my experience a big NONO my angel ate platties !!
Although this may not be true in some cases. One of my friends has angels and neaons and these are fine! i surpose that my angel is not peaceful!

 

[wrs]

actually neons are a natural food for the angels.

but the angel your friend has may be to small to eat them yet.

and you are right, angels and discus are a no.

 

[ecto1]

Angels and neons can live together in peace; mine do.

As for angels and discus, I am getting a 180 US gallon tank soon for discus and angelfish. I'll be sure to let you all know how it goes when I get my tank up.