Diagnose This Fishs Problems

[JMcQueen]

http/www.youtube.c...h?v=YLNFuKEqC_4

Firstly, sorry for the quality, it was done with my phone. This is a recording of a fish that I think has a problem. Its clearly loitering around the top of the tank with the fins clamped and has been doing so for a day or two.

Looking at the playback myself, it looks like there the tell-tell white threads of body rot on the side, it actually seems more prominent with the camera than the naked eye.

 

[helen1207]

Hi, just looked at your vid, sorry i cant give any advice as im new to all this myself! I have problems with my fish at the moment and am just scouring the site to try n get some info myself! Hope you get a diagnosis..Good luck Helen.

 

[mark4785]

Due to it's awkward body shape it's really hard for me to distinguish the normal from abnormal.

From looking at the recording it seems that it is gasping for oxygen and the scales seem to be raised slightly (not quite like dropsy pinecone symptoms). I would increase the oxygen level in the water IF your other fish (if any more are in the tank) are gasping for air too. If your other fish are fine then I wouldn't treat it as an oxygen issue, but instead you should consider one of the diagnoses from this page: http/www.waterlife.co.uk/waterlife/disease.htm .

Edit: diagnosis 3 on that page would be what I would opt for due to dropsy like signs and the faster breathing. Don't treat the water until ammonia/nitrite are confirmed to be zero.

 

[LondonguyJ]

Looks like dropsy to me

 

[BethK]

Hmmmm, it needs to be clearer tbh.

I would say swim bladder, along with dropsy

 

[JMcQueen]

Ammonia and nitrite are zero and have been consistently for a few days. There is one other fish in the tank and he's fine. This one will move and chase food but is largely reluctant to move a great deal.

I think the slight pinecone look is a reflection of the light. It doesnt look to have the pine coning youd expect when viewed from above and looks identical to the other fish.

 

[BethK]

Are you feeding them flake? They tend to gulp air down with flake, which can cause swim bladder issues.

 

[Harlequins]

Is it a black moor? - its hard to tell by video whether its the shape of the fish or pine-coning but it looks likes its dorsal fin has damage or fin rot...

How big is your tank?

 

[JMcQueen]

Is it a black moor? - its hard to tell by video whether its the shape of the fish or pine-coning but it looks likes its dorsal fin has damage or fin rot...

How big is your tank?

It is a black moor. The fin looks ok when it does fully extended it but its just looks reluctanct to do so. For the time being I've done a 20% water change and added some tetra goldmed. Figured it cant do any harm. The image is deceptive as its zoomed in as the fish is actually only about 1.5" in legnth

I've been feeding them a combination of soaked flake (injected by a dropper into the water itself so its already soaked and not floating on the surface), fresh veg (lettuce and broccoli mainly) and also sinking pellets. Not all at the same time I hasten to add but a variety over different days.

 

[Harlequins]

If it has signs of body rot i would treat with an anti fungal med. Fin rot/body rot can be contagious so keep an eye on the other fish...

If it does have dropsy there's not alot that can be done for it.

 

[JMcQueen]

what about internal parasites or constipation, would they cause similar symptoms? The reason I ask is that I just noticed some very white, long, thin stringy poop being..er..pooped.

 

[Harlequins]

Constipation may cause him to be bloated and floating around the top,try a cooked de-shelled pea see how he goes.Stringy poo could steer towards internal bacteria infection...

 

[JMcQueen]

Is there an easy way to get him to notice the pea as even when cooked and chopped they sink to the bottom.

 

[JMcQueen]

Im not confident he's going to last much longer to be honest. I just went to sort the peas out and he was crashed on the bottom. He picked himself up again virtually straight away but its never a good sign.

Its so frustrating at not actually knowing what the problem is. Both fish were bought a week ago from the same tank but I suppose to a degree its the luck of the draw as to how healthy and individual fish is.

 

[mark4785]

I have found some other images of that species of black moor and their scales have the same arrangement as yours so I'm confident it doesn't have pine-cone/dropsy. The fish shouldn't have those white spots on it's body though, I think it probably has the following fungus: http/www.waterlife.co.uk/waterlife/treat6.htm .

Either that or it has the adult phase of the condition named Ich (white spot disease):

* Adult phase - it is embedded in the skin or gills of the fish, causing irritation (with the fish showing signs of irritation) and the appearance of small white nodules. As the parasite grows it feeds on red blood cells and skin cells. After a few days it bores itself out of the fish and falls to the bottom of the aquarium.


Edit: One particular website states that the adult phase of white spot disease involves white spots that are only 1/4 the size of a pinhead, while others say they appear as clearly visible nodules.