Declaring War On Snails

I didn't answer my question....

All my tanks would have 0ppm nitrate if I just let them be. However I dose KNO3 to ALL my tanks both High-tech and low tech. I try to keep nitrate around 10-20ppm, more so in High-tech but low tech I rarely let drop below 10ppm. So I'm still confused on why you think nitrates present in a dirt tank means something is wrong with it.... IMO 0 nitrates hints at a lack of nitrogen. But then again I have a lot more fast growing stem plants and such.
 
Because if you have Nitrates in a heavily planted tank, it means your plants arent using it all?

I see your point for dosing Nitrates etc to feed the plants but surely your plants would then use it up and your levels would drop back down to 0?

When i had a heavily planted 4ft 260L tank, my phosphates were high but i couldnt make any other levels go above 0. Tank was 5 years old and on one occasion i cleaned the filter out (not too well but to get rid of plant matter) only to come back in and find only about 30L still in the tank >.< had to fill it up from scratch and high 0.25 nitrite for a few hours before it cycled through, barely a blip with 100% waterchange and filter clean at the same time.

I didnt dose with nitrates but had about 100 fish in there (lots were really tiny to be fair!) and tank was planted like a hedge in a box with vallis, crypt, java fern, anubias, hygrophilia, lilaeopsis and aponogeton etc... and i fed the fish really heavily... so i guess that was my way of dosing nitrates as i fed plants liquid plant food once a month and no co2 needed.

Anyhoo... Primous... hows the snail problem?
 
I didn't answer my question....

All my tanks would have 0ppm nitrate if I just let them be. However I dose KNO3 to ALL my tanks both High-tech and low tech. I try to keep nitrate around 10-20ppm, more so in High-tech but low tech I rarely let drop below 10ppm. So I'm still confused on why you think nitrates present in a dirt tank means something is wrong with it.... IMO 0 nitrates hints at a lack of nitrogen. But then again I have a lot more fast growing stem plants and such.

So does 0ppm ammonia, as tested with our test kits, mean that there's no ammonia in our tanks and our huge bacterial colony is suffering? (It's a rhetorical question...I know the answer :lol: ).
 
On the advice of MOBU I'm moving into the second stage with this AKA Infamous first infantry, first division, second mission.

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Gastropex reduced numbers drastically but didn't finish the job so I'm hoping that this will finish the job and drop the aquatic nuke MOBU mentioned previously.

*Edit a month on*

Had zero affect on the snails
 
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Success!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yup at times it felt like a war of attrition but I knew these things were not easy to get rid of. But rid myself of these pesky little >insert that word here< I did. So I thought I'd write a tiny review so that anyone else who may be dealing with these things can cut right to the chase and exterminate these pesky annoyances.

The Gastropex affect on fish

None! Absolutely and without question! Since I added this to my aquarium my lemons who are the most recent addition started breeding. This is to be expected with new fish once they settle in fully but during this treatment my rummynose tetra, a tetra that we all know needs a very specific ph level to breed also started breeding. I have had the rummynoses since 09 and for whatever reason they decided to forgo their ph needs and just breed. From my understanding fish breed only when they are completely relaxed and since both tetras started during the treatment (and I saved 7 fry) I'm confident that the eggs/fish/fry were completely unaffected by it.

Treatment

When treating I found that it is of great importance to do the following. Add gastropex to a cotton bud and then wipe above the water line. This is because once the snails detect the treatment they head for the surface and hang out above the water line. I noticed this behavior too late into my first treatment so adjusted and found that the snails who broke the surface would "jump" back into the water lol or at least release themselves from the glass and sink back into the aquarium.

Pick out as many snails as you can before you start treatment because the dead snails will start to rot and raise your ammonia count. Thankfully I never had this issue because I completed a fishless cycle where 5ppm of ammonia could be dealt with in under 12 hours. But if your bac colony is weak you may run into problems once the snails start to decay.

The treatment is supposed to last 3 day but esha say you can extend this to 5 days if need be. I ran my second treatment for 7 days and my third for 7 days also. This is because I have a dirt based substrate which tends to absorb chemicals and draw them from the water column. I also upped the recommended dose from 18 drops to 30 drops to compensate for the soil.

Be sure to remove shrimp before starting the treatment.

Yes many people don't see the need to treat or address a snail issue. But personally when it comes to this hobby I'm a pretty selfish dude. I want my aquarium to look the way I want it to look. And that look does not entail little nasty, asexual, egg-lay-aholics which carry diseases that can affect my fish spoiling my view! Personally I dismiss the "add this and that over night" or "build a trap," or they do no harm etcetc approach. I also don't believe in adding a species (loaches etc) And to deal with a problem either and on that note if they are small snails then Assassin snails can not eat them

It has been almost a month since I last saw one of these things :lol: :look: :fun: :good:

Ad at one point my substrate was littered with opaque white empty snail shells like some sort of lose metaphor of my aquatic struggle. But I wiped these little >you know the drill< out and as a result can only sing the praises of Esha Gastropex aka the tailor made wet napalm snail bomb!!!

Primous
 
And just to add its been two years since I last saw any of these thanks to assasin snails :rofl:

But well done for getting rid of them too I can't stand them either
 
This very day I have been out and about searching for Zebra Loaches with the intention of removing my small-snail problem. As as been mentioned, assassin snails are no good as these snail are very small however my new (five) Zebra loaches are also very small -- so very, very small, bless. I shall have to take bets on which grows the faster: If the loaches are faster, all is fine, if the snails win...we go to the explosive measures mentioned previously!!! :hyper: :hyper:

I forgot to mention sooner but the new Zebra loaches annihilated the snails in two days; I may have to go and get snails for them as payment -- good job boys :good: :good: !

Also, I think it better if you want loaches to get Zebra Loaches rather than Clowns as they don't grow anywhere near as big and still have all the mannerisms of the Clown.
 
I ordered two boxes of Gastropex to be shipped to States. How many dosings will I get for a 29 gal (sorry don't know liter equivilant off hand)?

Thank you, dee dee
 
29 (us) gal is 109 liters. Esha has a site where you can calculate the dosage but it also has a chart type thing in the instructions so you'll be fine. I'd stick to the recommended dosage for day 1 and then just a few drops less for day two. I'd also go for a week straight even though esha say 5 days max.

Don't forget the cotton bud + treatment above the water line. Oh and I'd add it just before lights out!
 
Ok...Just received two bottles of Gastropex today, Saturday. I'm planning to do the regular water change tomorrow afternoon and remove the carbon filters. I'm assuming the bio-wheel filters will be ok?

Wish me well, dee dee
 

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