Crypts Losing Leaves

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jmuccillo

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I find that whenever I increase CO2 in my tank several of the crypts begin to loose their leaves. I found this during my recent struggle with bga during which I increased CO2 from around 12ppm to 20-25ppm. When I turn the CO2 down again the problem with the crypts goes away. ( but of course this increases the risk of bga returning).

Current tank parameters:

NO3 - 20ppm
PO4 - 1ppm
I also dose so that I am adding around 15ppm K each week as well as Flourish trace as recommended + Chelated iron to around .2ppm per week.
I don't use any substrate ferts.

Anyone have any suggestions?
 
15ppm of Potassium (K) each week... That seems a lot...
 
You know what? I shouldn't post at 8am when I've just crawled out of bed. I was thinking phosphate not potassium. Sorry for any confusion caused.
 
You know what? I shouldn't post at 8am when I've just crawled out of bed. I was thinking phosphate not potassium. Sorry for any confusion caused.



Not a problem. I would also consider 15ppm phosphate a lot.

I came across this link which suggests loss of leaves could be attributed to phosphate defficiency. I have also noticed a bit of green spot algae in my tank which I understand may also be due to low phosphates. Still...my phosphate readings are generally around 1ppm which I thought was O.K. Might try bumping them up a little to see if this helps. Has anyone else had problems with Crypts losing their leaves?


http://www.aquabotanic.com/diagnose.htm
 
Could be. It could also be due to the drop in pH as you increase CO2. You could try upping the Phosphate to 2ppm and seeing if that helps. If I were you, I'd probably up the CO2 to 30ppm and just leave it constant, wait for the crypt's leaves to drop off and then grow back.
 
I wonder if it's pH related?

Some Crypts can be very sensitive to changes in their environment. The addition of CO2 will obviously result in a pH drop.

Another possibility - substrate fertilistion will definiltely help your Crypts, they obtain a lot of nutrients from their roots.
 
Another possibility - substrate fertilistion will definiltely help your Crypts, they obtain a lot of nutrients from their roots.

Thanks for the replies.

I've been contemplating adding some sort of substrate fert for a while now but don't want to strip the tank down as it has been up and running in this form for a couple of years. What do you suggest I could add without starting over? Some type of root tabs perhaps?

I'll also try and keep the pH as stable as possible and see if that settles things down.
 
[Definitely. I'm not sure what's available in Australia but I'm sure there's something.
Rabbit droppings !

Well there's certainly an abundance of rabbit droppings in Australia and if the idea ever caught on down here it would send a few aquarium fertilizer suppliers to the wall. At this stage I might stick to something a little more conventional but thanks for the tip. It made for some interesting googling.
 
Oh, I'm not offended, or upset.. just a little grossed out. And trust me, in healthcare i see a lot of gross things, so it takes a lot to gross me out.

some are specialy prepared to be re-ingested by the rabbit

Yum. Yum. lol
 
It actually just looks like round chocolate chip droplets. And its hard, not...well...you get the idea.
Sean
 

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