Cryptoheros Cutteri Eggs

[dave_oddballs]

hi, my pair of cryptoheros cutteri layed eggs again last night i think, although it could have been yesterday day as i wasn't in all day! last time the other fish ate the eggs so i separated them and now they have layed again, now there is roughly about 200 eggs (judged by counting 50 and seeing that was roughly 1/4 of what was there!) but about 6 that i can count have gone white, are the parents supposed to eat these ones or something?
they just seem to be leaving them there, will this meen that these 6 or so are unfertile or is it like a fungus? is there anything i should do or should i just leave it to take its course, as a sort of learning curve for the fish?
i think if i start messing around with them they will eat them so really just need an idea of what to do.
i have protozin which someone told me to add to treat fungus in eggs but if its not fungus i don't want to add it, the eggs are white ish but are not fluffy to look at. all the rest of the eggs are like a transparent amber colour as they should be.
baring in mind this is only the third time they have layed eggs, previously unsuccessful, should they be capable by now?

cheers, Dave

 

[dave_oddballs]

no one

 

[dave_oddballs]

thanks for all the help!!..................




well the eggs are fine, they must of disposed of the white infertile ones as they are gone but the rest are still there, at a wild guess between 150 and 200 eggs, this mornin i can see things it them, embryo's i guess.
does any one at least know how long it will be until they hatch? they were layed between 36 and 48 hours ago, i first saw them about 36 hours ago but wasn't in all day so could have been there all day.

also the tank they are in is seperated, their half and the other half with a few baby bichirs, 10 juvi rotkeil severums, a few juvi pink tailed characins and a baby syno, the seperator is just perspex, and has holes in it, to allow for water flow.
now if these eggs hatch, the babies will be able to fit through these holes, and probably round the edge of the seperator.
so what i am asking is if i need to move the babies, should i move the parents with them?
im pretty sure they will, once disturbed, eat the babies. but just checking.

Dave

 

[dave_oddballs]

still no help then??

 

[dave_oddballs]

cheers for all the help again guys! ( yes, that is sarcasm)

well the male one kept eating them all, but they hatched and i have saved about 24 and about 10 or so un-hatched eggs and put them into a separate tank.

i counted 24 babies swimming around so its better than none i suppose, if only someone could of took a couple of seconds out of their time to give a little advice i would have known to take them out.

nevermind

 

[england]

opp's did'nt see this thread, congrat's dave

Thats better than none dave, yes if your going to move them it will be a 50/50 chance parent's will eat them, it's a chance you need to take to move them without the parent's, but im not keen on moving my fry to another tank when so young, can you get hold of some netting and make a holding area for them?

if not just try moving them to another tank and good luck...if you want to try to breed them move the pair to a sperate tank and in about one week preform a nice waterchange,might stimulate them, for feeding either fresh hatched brine shrimp or look on ebay for deshelled brine shrimo eggs, round 3pounds for a bag and you feed direct from bag, works a treat

 

[dave_oddballs]

cheers, they are in a separate tank now,with a cycled filter. i can see about 26 or so swimming around, it is quite bad considering there was about 150 to start with, i thought they'd of been ok this time as last time they ate them but they were fine, then when i got home they were hatching and the male was eating them and the female was trying to chase him off, so really to have a chance of keeping any i had to move them, so i filled up another tank with water from the original and added a heater and filter. they still have yolk sacks and are just wriggling around on the floor of the tank.
next time i might just remove the male as the female was the one looking after them, and i even saw her picking up the babies and putting them back onto the slate on which she layed the eggs, so i know she is trying to be a good mum! just a bad dad to deal with.
but my worry is,whenever i go into the tank the cutteri go mad, so if they have more eggs id be worried they would go mad and damage them while im trying to catch the male.
so would it be better if i removed the rock with the eggs on, then put the female with them or would she eat them once she had been disturbed?
until my10 retkeil sevs are big enough to go into the big tank i haven't got another tank and have no where to put one now.
i will try and see if there is anywhere to put my 18" tank, that might do just for the pair.
i have a massive culture of these vinegar eels, must be billions of the things! i had them since i bred bettas and they're still going strong, so i can feed them for their first meals, they still have yolk sacks though, do you know how long they will feed off them for before i need to feed them? or is it a case of waiting until you can not see the yolk sack no more and then feed them??