Clown Loach With White Spot

[sez2212]

Hi all

I am having a total panic. I am away for the wekend and my partner has been keeping an eye on my tank. I knew my clown loach had white spot and was using the method of raising the temperature to treat it. He told me that this morning because it hadn't gone he has done a 20% water change and put in tetra white spot treatment FULL DOSE!!!

I am now totally stressed, as this is likely to kill my Pim catfish as well at the loach. I told him to put the carbon back in the filter as it tells you to take this out because it removes the treatment from the water, will this be enough to save them?? Or is there anything else he can do that will help/reverse what he has done?

PLEASE HELP.

Thanks

Sarah

 

[holidayinn]

I keep clown loaches, a group of 13, only had Ich once (when I had 4 CL) and raising the temperature worked fine. Never had any issues with them when I bumped the numbers up.

I have been recommended to use half-doses with Clowns as they are scaleless and obv very prone to illness. Putting carbon in will work (should take it out after a few days or it will all leak back into water) and/or water changes, then keep an eye on things. HTH, Good luck.

 

[sez2212]

I keep clown loaches, a group of 13, only had Ich once (when I had 4 CL) and raising the temperature worked fine. Never had any issues with them when I bumped the numbers up.

I have been recommended to use half-doses with Clowns as they are scaleless and obv very prone to illness. Putting carbon in will work (should take it out after a few days or it will all leak back into water) and/or water changes, then keep an eye on things. HTH, Good luck.

Thanks for the help. Could you just confirm with regard to the carbon, should I totally change it after a couple of days or just wash it out? Sorry I am new to this fish keeping lark. Also what temperature should I increase to? It is at about 28 at the moment.

Thanks again

Sarah

 

[shahrezsyed]

thats quite a lot maybe you can doze half strength?
shahrez

 

[OldMan47]

The fastest way I can think of to get the dose to 50% is do a 50% water change. The carbon might work but what would be the final concentration and how would you know?

 

[holidayinn]

I keep clown loaches, a group of 13, only had Ich once (when I had 4 CL) and raising the temperature worked fine. Never had any issues with them when I bumped the numbers up.

I have been recommended to use half-doses with Clowns as they are scaleless and obv very prone to illness. Putting carbon in will work (should take it out after a few days or it will all leak back into water) and/or water changes, then keep an eye on things. HTH, Good luck.

Thanks for the help. Could you just confirm with regard to the carbon, should I totally change it after a couple of days or just wash it out? Sorry I am new to this fish keeping lark. Also what temperature should I increase to? It is at about 28 at the moment.

Thanks again

Sarah

I would go low 30s, when I had to get rid of white spot put it up to about 30, 31...I think 28 is too low to eliminate whitespot, but not sure, 30+ should kill it off. I would persist with a temp change method for 2 weeks. Keep an eye on things though, that the CL is still active and make sure to provide plenty of aeration e.g air pump/filter turbulence.

I think carbon sponge is not very effective at all, would definitely consider a big water change like OldMan47 advises.

 

[sez2212]

The fastest way I can think of to get the dose to 50% is do a 50% water change. The carbon might work but what would be the final concentration and how would you know?

Thanks OldMan I will get my other half to do it today. He's not happy about it, but he shouldn't have put the treatment in without checking it was right first.

I have also asked him to increase the temperature to 30, it is currently at around 28. I hope thats right

 

[Truck]

dont increase to 30 unless you want to kill the clown loach.

 

[mickspark81]

Just to let you know you shouldnt panic too much

When my clown loach had Ich I raised temp and treated (full dose) of King British WS3 Whitespot treatment

White spot went after 6 days and I treated 4 days after last visable spot was gone.


I would have used half dose but wasnt aware at the time

 

[meguro]

dont increase to 30 unless you want to kill the clown loach.

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[sez2212]

dont increase to 30 unless you want to kill the clown loach.

what temperature should I go to then? all the articles I have read say to increase to 30/31 degrees. I'm confused and very concenred as I do not want to kill my fish I want to kill the white spot.

Just to let you know you shouldnt panic too much

When my clown loach had Ich I raised temp and treated (full dose) of King British WS3 Whitespot treatment

White spot went after 6 days and I treated 4 days after last visable spot was gone.


I would have used half dose but wasnt aware at the time

Hi Mick

What temperature did you increase to? Thanks

Sarah

 

[Truck]

loaches come from cooler waters and keeping them that high will make them really unactive and can sometimes kill them

its the same with other catfish that prefer cooler waters.

 

[sez2212]

loaches come from cooler waters and keeping them that high will make them really unactive and can sometimes kill them

its the same with other catfish that prefer cooler waters.

I wasn't going to increase the temperature long term, just for a few days to kill off the white spot. It has been at 27/28 for th past day or so and my partner said that the clown loach and the pims were all really active but from what I have read that isn't warm enough to kill the white spot, I will get him to keep an eye on them and if they start getting lethargic I will get him to reduce the temp again.

This fish keeping stuff is hard work

 

[meguro]

It depends on the species of loach as for what sort of temperatures they can comfortably tolerate. Clown loaches are fine in 30C temps. (esp. if it will only be short term while you remove ich).

 

[Truck]

by all means try it...but if they become all lazy and over come you know the cause and you can bring it back down