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KrystaK

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So my tank has been rather in active for a while. It's been up and running and had fish and the whole bit, but it's lacking in so many areas.
 
So I figure, before I get my hopes up that this would be a good stock I thought I should ask the community. 
It's a 30 Gal tank. 
Current stock is:
3 Honey Gourami
1 Zebra danio
5 Panda Corys
1 Male BNP.
 
I plan on rehoming the Gourami and Zebra (If i can catch the Danio, thats why I didn't rehome him earlier, he's a fast little bugger) 
Anyways, I was planning on stocking the tank back up again, granted this will take a while as I want my plants to grow in more fully and I'm planning on waiting until an auction by the local aquatics club in Sept. But my ideal(ish, as I obviously can;t fit all I want into 30 gal)
is:
2 Pearl Gourami (I'm thinking an M/F pair)
6(ish) Cherry Barbs
X Platys (Maybe 3 or 4) I have a soft spot for Platys
5 Panda Corys
1 BNP
 
I feel like this may be a bit over stocked, but that being said, the tank is over filtered, it has a Fluval U3 (40 Gal capacity) And I normally change 40% of the water weekly. 
My pH is around 7.8 from the tap and settles around 8.0 after 24 hours. The tank generally stays around 74-76, though I tend to add slightly cooler water with every water change. 
 
Also, are there any compatibility issues? I've read that if the Pearl Gourami decide to breed they may become aggressive towards other fish and I don't want them to possibly kill any of the other fish.... 
 
K, I'm gonna run you through:
 
 
KrystaK said:
So my tank has been rather in active for a while. It's been up and running and had fish and the whole bit, but it's lacking in so many areas.
 
So I figure, before I get my hopes up that this would be a good stock I thought I should ask the community. 
It's a 30 Gal tank. 
Current stock is:
3 Honey Gourami Good
1 Zebra danio Needs cooler water and a bigger school
5 Panda Corys Needs bigger schools
1 Male BNP. Good
 
I plan on rehoming the Gourami and Zebra (If i can catch the Danio, thats why I didn't rehome him earlier, he's a fast little Bother) 
Anyways, I was planning on stocking the tank back up again, granted this will take a while as I want my plants to grow in more fully and I'm planning on waiting until an auction by the local aquatics club in Sept. But my ideal(ish, as I obviously can;t fit all I want into 30 gal)
is:
2 Pearl Gourami (I'm thinking an M/F pair) Gouramis don't pair. Try to keep 1 male and 2+ females
6(ish) Cherry Barbs Good, I'd get more though
X Platys (Maybe 3 or 4) I have a soft spot for Platys 3-4 is good, all males preferable
5 Panda Corys Get some more
1 BNP Good
 
I feel like this may be a bit over stocked, but that being said, the tank is over filtered, it has a Fluval U3 (40 Gal capacity) And I normally change 40% of the water weekly. 
My pH is around 7.8 from the tap and settles around 8.0 after 24 hours. The tank generally stays around 74-76, though I tend to add slightly cooler water with every water change. 
 
Also, are there any compatibility issues? I've read that if the Pearl Gourami decide to breed they may become aggressive towards other fish and I don't want them to possibly kill any of the other fish.... 
 
 
I would pick either the barbs or the platies tbh, not both together. :)
 
It's best to have a trio of gourami (1M:2F) so that the male isn't constantly harrasing just one. Make sure that the 6ish for barbs is 6 or more
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The corys also need to be a minimum of 6. Try to make sure you get all male platys otherwise you're going to have heaps of breeding going on!
 
Your planned stocking is ~115cm of adult fish in a ~113 litres of water (excluding what is taken by substrate, bogwood etc.), that is rather overstocked IMO, you need to trim that down by ~40cm.
 
N0body Of The Goat said:
Your planned stocking is ~115cm of adult fish in a ~113 litres of water (excluding what is taken by substrate, bogwood etc.), that is rather overstocked IMO, you need to trim that down by ~40cm.
 
I suppose this shows the flaw in using gallons in some way :/ I always read 30 gallon tanks as being in US gallons so 125 litres - just because there are so many branded tanks that are manufactured at this capacity. Which for me this stock looks okay for - perhaps the OP could clarify if it is the 125 litres or the 113 litres?
 
Thanks Wills :)
 
So let me tell you this. Danios need groups and are coldwater fish
 
DerpPH said:
So let me tell you this. Danios need groups and are coldwater fish
He said he was going to rehome the danio soon but they are tropical not coldwater?
 
Actually it would be 45 inches of fish (115cm) in 30 gallons (112L), where he was suggesting you lose 15 inches (40cm) of fish to get you back down to 30 inches of fish. You cant exactly go 1cm:1L unfortunately.
 
I'd do:
1 Pearl Gourami
5 Cherry Barbs
5 Panda Cories
1 BNP
 
With 3 pearls and 6 barbs that's just at the limit, but with the pleco that just threw everything overstocked.
 
wrightt3 said:
 
So let me tell you this. Danios need groups and are coldwater fish
He said he was going to rehome the danio soon but they are tropical not coldwater?
 
 
Most danios are temperate, not fully coldwater, but do like cooler water than "normal" tropicals.
 
DreamertK said:
Actually it would be 45 inches of fish (115cm) in 30 gallons (112L), where he was suggesting you lose 15 inches (40cm) of fish to get you back down to 30 inches of fish. You cant exactly go 1cm:1L unfortunately.
 
I'd do:
1 Pearl Gourami
5 Cherry Barbs
5 Panda Cories
1 BNP
 
With 3 pearls and 6 barbs that's just at the limit, but with the pleco that just threw everything overstocked.
 
I think that is pretty drastic.... you could get away with bigger schools in there at least. With regular maintenance and a good filter water quality is not going to be an issue and for me its more important for moderatly sized schools rather than bare minimums.
 
Like I say interested to see if this is actually a 125 liter but even so I think some suggestions here are being pretty reserved.
 
Wills
 
Well I got out my measuring tape and found 91 cm L, 31 cm W, 41 cm H (I just measured to the water line, not to the top of the tank, which was another two or three inches) And google calculated 115.6 L
 
I had a school of 6 Danio's and a female Pearl Gourami at one point. She got quite territorial and I rehomed her. Upon asking around some people suggested the Danio's were too quick moving for her liking and thus made her nervous and territorial. 
I tried my best to catch all my Danio's and rehome them (But I couldn't catch this last one and thus he is still in my tank) - I don't want him, I just can't catch him for the life of me. 
 
So I'm guessing even with my larger water changes it would still be best if I cut the Platy's and 1 of the Pearl Gourami out of my stock? I'm okay with removing a Gourami, as I wasn't sure a M/F pair would be enough and having just a single would be alright with me. But I do like Platy's and am sad if I can't have them as well..
 
1 Gourami (Would a male be to aggressive? (10 cm -ish)
6 Or so Cherry Barbs (6 x 5 cm = 30 cm)
6 Panda's (6 x 5 cm = 30 cm)
1 BNP. (10 cm-ish) 
 
For a total of: 80 cm 
I myself don't really agree with the 1 in/gal rule, they're an okay guideline, but as a definitive rule., My BNP is 4 inches long, there is no way he'd survive in 4 gal tank. 
 
I'm with Wills here. I think you could probably have a bit more than what you have been advised if you keep up with maintenance.
personally though, I would up the size of your shoals to about 8 but 6 is okay. Not great, but okay.
I would however stick to just one gourami due to their size and aggressiveness like many others have said.
I'd go with:
- 1 gourami
- 8 cherry barbs
- 8 panda cories
- 3 platies
- 1 BNP
In my opinion, that is fully stocked, not overstocked and you should be fine with weekly water changes.
 
If you're having pearl gourami they need high temps, panda corys need lower temps.
Maybe go for sterbai or Duplicareus cory instead
 
wrightt3 said:
 
So let me tell you this. Danios need groups and are coldwater fish
He said he was going to rehome the danio soon but they are tropical not coldwater?
 
 
They can survive in both with little to no side effects BUT I always recommend against full tropical climates permanently. THey are a group of fish know as sub-tropical or temperate. Most danios and some barbs fit into this category. THe ideal temperature is somewhere between 18-21 degrees celcius whereas full cold is often 18- degrees and full tropical is somewhere in the 23-27 range. :)
 
Wills said:
 
Actually it would be 45 inches of fish (115cm) in 30 gallons (112L), where he was suggesting you lose 15 inches (40cm) of fish to get you back down to 30 inches of fish. You cant exactly go 1cm:1L unfortunately.
 
I'd do:
1 Pearl Gourami
5 Cherry Barbs
5 Panda Cories
1 BNP
 
With 3 pearls and 6 barbs that's just at the limit, but with the pleco that just threw everything overstocked.
 
I think that is pretty drastic.... you could get away with bigger schools in there at least. With regular maintenance and a good filter water quality is not going to be an issue and for me its more important for moderatly sized schools rather than bare minimums.
 
Like I say interested to see if this is actually a 125 liter but even so I think some suggestions here are being pretty reserved.
 
Wills
 
My original suggestion forgot that she already had the cories, so I had put 1 gourami, 10 barbs, 1 pleco and then edited it to include the cories.
 
While this is true, I'm not sure how much extra work she'd be willing to do.
 

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