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[The chilly dipper]

right then its settled i will get them a bigger tank as soon as i can.
alot of people dont like these bio orbs, im getting to be one of those people too.

Good chap
what is the usual process for moving from indoors to outside pond?

sorry about the gold fish - fancy fish mix up and for not being nasty too a appreciate the advice you are giving me.

as for the picture... is that your fish in there cos he is a monster!!!!!
i didnt realise the humble goldie could turn into a carp lol!!!!

It's not my fish, no; it's pic I 'borrowed' to demonstrate why 120l isn't 'too big' for a goldfish tank I don't keep goldies anymore; only in my mum's pond; I can't be bothered using all that tank space and filtration for one or two fish.

i will address the issues raised as soon as possible
is there a reference to just how much water a fish needs?
i have heared somthing about the size of the tail or somthing but i cant remember what it was...

do you guys recognise this??

cheers
dipper

There are all sorts of different 'rules' and guidelines people come out with for stocking; the most common one is 'one inch of adult fish per gallon' (I prefer 'one inch of adult fish per 12 square inches of surface area' myself), but that only works for small, tropical fish. Coldwater fish are a whole different matter; they need far more space as their metabolism runs so much more slowly. For anything that grows to over 3 or 4 inches, then you need a tank at least four times the length and twice the width and height of the eventual, adult size of the fish not the size it is now. In all these cases, that's standard lenght of fish; that excludes the tail.
But all these things are to be taken with a pinch of salt, and are no more than general guidelines only, to give newbies some idea of what stocking they're looking at in whatever size tank they have.
Stocking levels are something you get a feel for with experience.

i see matey.
thanks for that,im getting a 100 litre to turn into a tropical now thank god lots of tropicals dont grow that big lol hehe

some nice guidlines in there too but as you said experience is the key.
somthing which i have a lack of.

its a shame cos biorbs are not bad lookin either only good for small tropicals i guess they may have to go into my uncles pond can i do that to tank kept fish?

 

[pickled78]

 

 

over stocked?

Yes, massively; you're supposed to have 40l per fish with a minimum tank size of 100l for goldies.

theyre not as messy as gold fish they are smaller at the mo if this makes any difference to ammonia excretion.

But fantails and black moors are goldfish; just fancy varieties. That's like saying chihuahuas aren't dogs

If you keep them in there for much longer they wil become stunted and sick, you need to get them into a biggger tank ASAP.

Growing fish need far more space than an adult fish of the same size.he advice you guys are giving me
 

right then its settled i will get them a bigger tank as soon as i can.
alot of people dont like these bio orbs, im getting to be one of those people too.


sorry about the gold fish - fancy fish mix up and for not being nasty too a appreciate the advice you are giving me.

as for the picture... is that your fish in there cos he is a monster!!!!!
i didnt realise the humble goldie could turn into a carp lol!!!!

i will address the issues raised as soon as possible
is there a reference to just how much water a fish needs?
i have heared somthing about the size of the tail or somthing but i cant remember what it was...

do you guys recognise this??

cheers
dipper
 


"i didnt realise the humble goldie could turn into a carp lol!!!!"
 
Hi,
 
Goldfish are Carp, The Japanese genetically altered them thousands of years ago for domestic viewing pleasures and they can grow to the size of a small dog with a lifespan of up to 25 years!
Also Goldfish are a pond fish so why pet shops sell them for tanks just goes to show they are only interested in profit and not animal wellfare. a sick fish ensures you buy their medications and a dead fish ensures you purchase more fish..medications should only be used as a last resort, ALL problems are due to poor water quality and poor cleaning and if left in poor conditions then medication is needed to control the diseases that the fish keeper basically caused.
 
My advice to all fish keepers is to gain knowledge and advice from fish keeping forums, pet shops want your money / forums are non profit and full of experienced fish keepers who actually care for aquatic welfare.
 
Bio-orbs and bowls should be banned in my opinion (for any fish type) - they are like putting a poor budgie (or any bird) into a cage.

 
"i guess they may have to go into my uncles pond can i do that to tank kept fish?" = Yes you can, and they will be all the more healthier for your kindness

 
Hope you managed to acheive your full cycle
 
All the best