Betta Or Not Betta

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im currently debating getting a betta and another tank or just staying with what ive got 
it will most likley be a 5 gal with ugf as i already have the filter and heater and air pump.
so all that will be needed is the betta, tank, gravel, plants, light, shrimps, and maby wood or cave.
 
 
i cant make up my mind what would you suggest.
 

If i do decide to get it how would i keep costs to a mimumum as it will be on a very tight budget 
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Go to your local home improvement store for gravel. You can buy a huge bag of it for about two dollars. That's one of the cheapest ways. Tanks can be improvised sometimes, but for a betta, because the heater needs to be at a decent temp, you want to avoid plastic. You can usually find inexpensive tanks at second-hand stores, craigslist (or your equivalent), freecycle, etc. Or you can often times find fairly inexpensive set ups which include tank and hoods only. Plants are best ordered online for the best deal (you can usually find free shipping too) or you should try the smaller LFS in your area as their prices will almost always be better than the large chain stores. For caves, get some clay pots. These are inexpensive and safe. You may be able to source wood in your local rivers or lakes, but make sure the wood is not pine or juniper and be sure to bake it to remove any contaminants. For a light, depending on the type of plants you use, a bright desk lamp may be the cheapest way to go.
 
So if you got what I suggested, your total breakdown will look like this:
 
Gravel: $2.50
Wood: free
Clay pot: $1.00
Light: $5.00-15.00
Tank: $0.00-20.00
 
You are looking at a minimum of $7.50 depending on what kind of light you use and how you source the tank. You can also look into alternative tanks. Large heat resistant tubs often work well, though they frequently are not clear so you can't see your fish all the time. You can get large glass bowls (but it would be difficult to fit in your filter in something round). Or you can usually for $20 dollars get a five gallon tank with a hood. Of course prices may different depending on where you live, but these are the average costs for me. I did not include plant prices because this really depends on where you get them. 
 
Good easy plants would be java ferns and java moss, plus anubius species. These are all low light plants so they would be happy with a desk lamp instead of fluorescent lights or similar.
 
this tank will go under my 10 gal that will hopefully be getting dp s soon
 
how much space do shrimps need and what should u feed them
 
your in a lottery putting anything in a tank with a betta. it depends on the fish. my betta is very aggresive and will not tollerate anything in his tank with him, not even snails. in a small tank a betta would more than likley eat any dwarf shrimp you put in with him. thats not to say some people havnt had success doing this again it depends on the fish. and then there are shrimp. in my experience shrimp dont like small tanks. i set up a 7.5g shrimp tank and it was more trouble than it was worth. smaller tanks are harder to keep stable and shrimp are very sensitive to the slightest change in water values. the tank crashed after about twelve months and all my shrimp died. the best set ups for dwarf shrimp are tanks between 12 and 20 gallon. they need room to breed into. if shrimp arnt breding they arnt happy. its what they do. in the close confines of a small tank they just stop breeding. and if they do they will probably die pretty quickly and cause you much frustration. my advise to you would be to buy the biggest tank you can afford or have space for if you want to keep both a betta and shrimp. it will give you the best chance of success and save you a lot of money and head aches. good luck.
 
how do u know if it is aggresive or not in the petstore.
 
i think ill get a 4 or 8 gal betta tank depending on what they cost.
 
If you purchase them in the cups, one way to tell is by placing the betta fish near each other. If they flare, these may not be friendlier fish. If they don't flair you can move on to the next test. If you bring the betta near a tank with other fish, let him see the other fish. If he flairs, he's probably not suited for a tank with other species. If he doesn't, try him with some larger shrimp or snails first like an amano shrimp or a mystery snail. I would like to mention that this is not definitive. It just gives an idea about the level of aggression with a betta. Naturally they don't want to be around others of their species unless they are breeding. And you have to be cautious around other species as bettas are not known as happy community fish. They are best with inverts or by themselves.
 
They aren't super active but very attentive. They patrol their tanks constantly, taking little breaks here and there. [SIZE=14.4444446563721px]A younger/new Betta will be a more excited and fast swimmer. A Betta that has room to swim is beautiful to watch.[/SIZE]
 
Some Bettas have large fins, more room would be good for these so they can spread them out better. A Betta with large finnage is not a very good swimmer, and sometimes it can happen that these Bettas start "trimming" their fins, sort of like nail biters, and this can create problems like fin rot to take hold.
 
If you have a well planted tank with rock caves and roots or wood, tank mates like shrimp have more of a chance to get away from a hunting Betta. A snail will just go into its own shell, but it might occasionally lose an antenna to the Betta. 
 
If it turns out that you have a very aggressive Betta on your hands it may be best to re-home any tank mates.
 
Neo.jpg4 gallon isn't a lot of space but it's OK. 
 
My youngest son's Betta is in a 4 gallon (I've since replaced the big clay pot with a small one):
 
 
so defonatly gonna get a betta.
 
but what oddballs can be kept in a 10 gal that dont need live food ( exept DPs )
 

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