Bent Spine

[9murphy9]

yep,another one.i have a sunset platy with a really bent spine it didn't have it an hour ago so i'm unsure of what it is any help ??

thanks

Alex

 

[DJH584]

Alex

You say another one? I've not read through your previous posts so I'm not sure what you mean by that i.e. in your tank or mentioned elsewhere by someone else on the forum.
So forgive me when i come up with the following suggestion.

Is there any possibility, going on your signature, that the platy has strayed to close to one of the angels and that fish has chased the platy resulting in the platy having a head on with the side of the tank?

I have a zebra danio that was chased by another danio and that chased fish hit the side of the tank at full pelt. Net result one bent spine hence my suggestion.

David

 

[9murphy9]

the another one was a reference to my other thread in the emergency's thread about a rescued goldfish,and it possibly could be a bang into the tank, may i inquire what happened to your zebra did it die ? i don't want her to be suffering.

thanks ]

Alex

 

[Flute]

She has a very sunken stomach- have you seen what her poo looks like? Is it normal, or white and stringy? If so, this points to something like internal parasites which will need treating ASAP. Is she eating properly? Is she showing any signs of colour loss, loss of scales or lesions?

 

[fish48]

your fish as been sick for some time it will die very soon it at the signs of fish tuberculosis

 

[Flute]

I didn't want to freak Murphy out, hence why asking questions before jumping to fish TB, although it is a possibility. There are other problems that could cause these symptoms, and hopefully it'll be more related to a parasitic infestation rather than something like fish TB

 

[9murphy9]

thanks,there are no scales missing and the color has not gone.one thing i have been noticing is she has been going for the angels occasionally what is fish tb ?

 

[Flute]

Ok, there could be other reasons behind her bent spine and sunken stomach. How long has she been like this for? Has she always been like that or is it a recent thing? If she has always been like this then it could be down to inbreeding, or stunted growth, etc. How long have you had her for? Have you seen her poo recently? The more information about her you can give the better.

Fish tuberculosis is a disease that cause a lot of problems and is pretty much un-treatable. Humans can also become infected by it if you put a hand with a cut in the infected tank. I don't think it's anything you need to worry about at the moment though.

 

[9murphy9]

hi thanks for all the help it's appreciated,i have had the fish for around a month maybe two.the crookedness only came about last night,i have not seen her poo,she is ignoring food,the ones in the tank (she in a hospital tank) are eating and pooing normally.How would fish contract tb ? i have recently got 3 fish yesterday,a pleco ,a vieja and a rocio octal.the rocio octal was in the tank with the platies as he is too small for my cichlid tank thanks again

Alex

 

[Flute]

That's very quick for it to happen. How long has she not eaten for? Bent spine could be a sign of vitamin deficiancy, or as DJH584 suggested perhaps she injured herself whilst trying to get away from the angels. My other concern is water conditions- that is very heavily stocked 10 gal, even for a hospital tank. Have you checked that the stats are all spot on, and that the filter is coping ok with that big a bioload?

I wouldn't worry about fish TB- it's very rare in fresh water tanks, and she would be showing more symptoms if she had it, and adding 3 new fish yesterday wouldn't have done it.

 

[9murphy9]

thanks thats a relief,i have been doing 50 % water changes once a week she was eating well the night before it happend

 

[star4]

Treat for camallanus worms, they are really difficult to get rid of, you will need a really strong medication Sera Nematol is good it does work, I have used it, but needed a second dose. Once treated for worms you will also need an antibacterial medication to help with internal infection caused by the worms and to combat bacterial build up from dead worms rotting in the gut, feed peas 24-48 hours after the treatment to help the fish pass the dead worms. I have just had the little blighters in one of my tanks a rummy nose tetra went exactly the same as your platy, fine then bent spine as the poor thing was wasting away. Having just gone through it its 50/50 whether the platy makes it as the treatment can kill them, I lost 3 fish in total treating my tank. I would also treat any tank with fish that have been in contact with this platy.

 

[Flute]

I was hoping someone would be along to give better advice than I could offer- never had to deal with this kind of thing. Stars advice is always spot on Murphy, I'd give what she suggests a go

 

[9murphy9]

thanks guys,can i just ask though i thought if it was parasitic the poo would be white and stringy witch it isn't and there would be little red things sticking out the anus also this link (http/www.fishchannel.com/images/exclusives/aquarium-fish-international/camallanus-800.jpg)says that they need to start life in a crustacean and none of my fish have ever come into contact with one.Is there any way i can check if it is a worm ? like if i shine a light though the fish will i see the out shape of a worm,also we did see earlier the angel chasing down a guppy. thanks for any help

Alex

 

[star4]

I read that up too about these worms, my fish were all eating and pooing fine, no sign of any worms/redness etc until the rummy nose went as thin as your platy suddenly and hunched over. I called the shop I got the fish from to see if they were on a centralised filtration system to find out how many tanks I had to treat and I was also told crustaceans are needed to complete the cycle and uv light kills them, but obviously was not the case in my tank as I have no crustaceans and run a uv filter. I only saw worms hanging out and redness once the infestation was rife. If the fish is resting or sleeping sometimes you can see the worm stick out but if the fish moves it goes back in again. I am pretty sure thats what is up with your fish.