Begginer Question

[gzylo]

Hi


I recently added 1 male and 2 female betta to by community tank, the male started to build a bubble nest, and as an un-experienced betta keeper I wonder whether this symptoms are because he always builds nest eve if he is on his own or because he wish to mate wish females?


he constantly chases the females when he spot them otherwise he is busy making nest and to impress his reflection , the females are starting to wonder what is going on around the nest (only when male is out of there) he is defending territory around the nest, but i doubt it will happend in community tank, I will separate nice female and male to my quarantine tank and try to breed them there.

 

[MaddieJ]

I think you will benefit greatly from reading the following links, which can also be found pinned at the top of the page.

http/www.fishforums.net/index.php?showtopic=37944 - breeding bettas.

http/www.fishforums.net/index.php?showtopic=54941 - food for fry.

http/www.fishforums.net/index.php?showtopic=96682 - betta tank mates - including other bettas.

http/www.fishforums.net/index.php?showto...bettas+together - another keeping bettas together.

Hope that clears up a few things.

 

[gzylo]

I think you will benefit greatly from reading the following links, which can also be found pinned at the top of the page.

[URL="http/www.fishforums.net/index.php?showtopic=37944"]http/www.fishforums.net/index.php?showtopic=37944[/URL] - breeding bettas.

[URL="http/www.fishforums.net/index.php?showtopic=54941"]http/www.fishforums.net/index.php?showtopic=54941[/URL] - food for fry.

[URL="http/www.fishforums.net/index.php?showtopic=96682"]http/www.fishforums.net/index.php?showtopic=96682[/URL] - betta tank mates - including other bettas.

[URL="http/www.fishforums.net/index.php?showto...bettas+together"]http/www.fishforums.net/index.php?showto...bettas+together[/URL] - another keeping bettas together.

Hope that clears up a few things.

red that, but it do not say about fish behaviour which i was asking bout, thanks anyway

 

[wilsonnw8]

Really you shouldnt keep females with a male with females unless your going to breed them. Even then not 2 at once! hehe the nest is his way of showing off to the ladies and most males build nests when the current is low even when there arent any females around. I would seperate him off, the females are best kept in groups of 4 or over. Or if you dont want more girls then keep them as individuals as well. If you do want to breed do some research and have a kind soul at hand who will help you ....cough Thank you Netty cough

 

[MaddieJ]

Firstly, I would separate them as soon as you can. Males and females only put up with each other long enough to breed and the breeding process can be long and stressful on the fish, very tiring indeed. A good amount of preparation needs to go into conditioning both the male and female before you place them together. If either of them is stressed or not prepared, they will be aggressive and fight - possibly to death. On top of this, if they are out of shape and not in a controlled environment they will be more prone to infections and the babies less likely to survive.

Females can live together with little to no problems when in a large group, preferably 5 or more. This thins out aggression.

Wilson beat me to it

 

[gzylo]

how to do conditioning? I will separate them soon, as soon as I will get the sponge filter and small heater + light to my 20 litres betta tank

 

[bronzecat]

how to do conditioning? I will separate them soon, as soon as I will get the sponge filter and small heater + light to my 20 litres betta tank

Hi

By soon, what timescale are you talking? You have seen aggression already, and this will be causing both the male and females stress which can induce a lowered immune system leading to possible infections. If you can, put the male in a floating trap, at least he wont be able to get to the females.

 

[Netty]

Really you shouldnt keep females with a male with females unless your going to breed them. Even then not 2 at once! hehe the nest is his way of showing off to the ladies and most males build nests when the current is low even when there arent any females around. I would seperate him off, the females are best kept in groups of 4 or over. Or if you dont want more girls then keep them as individuals as well. If you do want to breed do some research and have a kind soul at hand who will help you ....cough Thank you Netty cough

You're very welcome Wilson

As has already been said.....you must separate your male from the females and then research as much as possible and have all the correct equipment and food before even attempting breeding.

 

[ThePiggy]

Just something to think about before deciding to breed..

The parents need to be conditioned for about 3 weeks by feeding frozen bloodworms and brine shrimp and betta pellets. The breeding itself needs to be done in a large tank set up to specifically meet the needs of what's going to happen in there. It needs to be supervised closely to prevent damage or death of your bettas, and it can take many hours. You could possibly end up with 300+ fry, all of which need to be fed a few times a day with microscopic food that needs to be grown. Within a few weeks, all the males with need to be separated each to their own tank or they will fight. Will all these fish have a home once they get that big? Are you going to have the time to do your weekly(or more often than that if you keep your bettas in tanks that are too small for them) water changes in so many tanks? Do you have the money to spend on pellets and bloodworms and brine shrimp and medication? It's a big commitment to breed bettas, make sure you're prepared for what will have to be done.

 

[gzylo]

Just something to think about before deciding to breed..

The parents need to be conditioned for about 3 weeks by feeding frozen bloodworms and brine shrimp and betta pellets. The breeding itself needs to be done in a large tank set up to specifically meet the needs of what's going to happen in there. It needs to be supervised closely to prevent damage or death of your bettas, and it can take many hours. You could possibly end up with 300+ fry, all of which need to be fed a few times a day with microscopic food that needs to be grown. Within a few weeks, all the males with need to be separated each to their own tank or they will fight. Will all these fish have a home once they get that big? Are you going to have the time to do your weekly(or more often than that if you keep your bettas in tanks that are too small for them) water changes in so many tanks? Do you have the money to spend on pellets and bloodworms and brine shrimp and medication? It's a big commitment to breed bettas, make sure you're prepared for what will have to be done.

Lovely that's exactly what I was asking for the manual ! I have everything apart from shrimp and pallets, do not worry about the time I work from home.

Thanks again
gzylo

 

[bronzecat]

I suggest, instead of thinking about the future you consider the present! i.e. get the male out

 

[ThePiggy]

bronzecat, I don't think he's listening to anyone. Since making this topic and everyone telling him to take the male out, he has made a post in another thread saying that he has his male with his 2 females. Not only is he not listening to us, but he's giving bad advice to people who actually care about their fish.

 

[gzylo]

male was out yesterday night! and was feed with blood worms one of the females is in the jar in community tank feed with worms too

 

[jourdy288]

Glad to hear you took the male out

 

[bronzecat]

male was out yesterday night! and was feed with blood worms one of the females is in the jar in community tank feed with worms too

Thats good Only he wasn't at 11.02pm yesterday so i'm a bit confused? Oh well at least he cant pester the females now