Baby Dat

[invader]

Got this little guy yesterday... He's only 1-2" now. He'll eventually be going in the 125gl I am buying when my LFS gets them in.

 

[cane76]

very nice

 

[DiscusAngel]

Nice but i think they prefer t be in groups

 

[cane76]

my 4 seem to hate each other and all they do is hide

 

[DiscusAngel]

my 4 seem to hate each other and all they do is hide

Lmao! maybe they like to be on there own........

 

[Fella]

I'd love to get a dat this size for my brackish tank. I only ever see them offered at a considerably bigger size though, and part of the fun of fish keeping is growing the fish on!

 

[invader]

very nice

Thanks!

Nice but i think they prefer t be in groups

As cane said, they are pretty territorial to each other, unless you have enough to spread the aggression. He seems to love being on his own and exploring his tank.

I'd love to get a dat this size for my brackish tank. I only ever see them offered at a considerably bigger size though, and part of the fun of fish keeping is growing the fish on!

I'm the same way. I wasn't planning on getting a dat, but he was so small and so cute and I knew I would have room for him in the 125.

 

[T1KARMANN]

if you have hiding places you will never see the tiger

if you have more than 1 they will fight all the time it all depends on how much fighting you are willing to put up with

their is no need to put any tiger in a brackish tank freshwater is fine

 

[CFC]

T1KARMANN Posted Today, 10:08 AM

their is no need to put any tiger in a brackish tank freshwater is fine

I'd have to disagree there, Couis quadrifasciatus (silver dat) definately does better with some salt in the water but all the so called "siamese" tigers, microlepis, pulcher and undecimradiatus, (indo's, wide bars and thin bars) all do best in freshwater.
Campbelli i've heard mixed reports from experienced fishkeepers, some say it needs brackish while others say fine in freshwater, personally id err on the side of caution if i was going to buy one and keep it in very mildly brackish water with an SG of 1.003 or so to start with and then see how it goes from there.

 

[nmonks]

if you have hiding places you will never see the tiger

While you're probably right, I can't say this is a way of keeping fish that makes me feel a little uneasy. If a fish that likes hiding can't hide, it's an unhappy fish. To me, this is right up there with keeping spiny eels without sand or plecs without bogwood. Can you keep them this way? Probably yes. Is it much fun for the fish? Probably not.

their is no need to put any tiger in a brackish tank freshwater is fine

I'm afraid I disagree. Datnioides campbelli and Datnioides polota (what used to be called D. quadrifasciatus) are both brackish water fish in the wild, and it is hard to imagine that they do as well in freshwater conditions in captivity. The other species appear to be strictly freshwater fish in the wild, though they do have considerable salt tolerance. Given the high price of Datnioides campbelli, I'd personally recommend keeping it in brackish water simply to optimise its living conditions and hopefully lifespand.

Cheers, Neale

 

[CFC]

if you have hiding places you will never see the tiger

While you're probably right, I can't say this is a way of keeping fish that makes me feel a little uneasy. If a fish that likes hiding can't hide, it's an unhappy fish. To me, this is right up there with keeping spiny eels without sand or plecs without bogwood. Can you keep them this way? Probably yes. Is it much fun for the fish? Probably not.

their is no need to put any tiger in a brackish tank freshwater is fine

I'm afraid I disagree. Datnioides campbelli and Datnioides polota (what used to be called D. quadrifasciatus) are both brackish water fish in the wild, and it is hard to imagine that they do as well in freshwater conditions in captivity. The other species appear to be strictly freshwater fish in the wild, though they do have considerable salt tolerance. Given the high price of Datnioides campbelli, I'd personally recommend keeping it in brackish water simply to optimise its living conditions and hopefully lifespand.

Cheers, Neale

Bloody scientists, why are the always changing the names of fish and what was wrong with Couis quadrifaciatus? Do they know how many times i had to look that spelling up to check it before i managed to commit it to memory?, and i still put an A instead of an I in the quardrIfaciatus half the time
Now i've got to try and remember its Datnoids polota, until some smart arse goes and changes it again.

 

[nmonks]

CFC --

For what it's worth, Schaefer actually apologises about going into the taxonomy of Datnioides before describing them all in the Aqualog book! And both he and I use D. quadrifasciatus in our books! So we both got caught out on that one!

Cheers, Neale

 

[ringham]

I'm defo not qualified to talk about dats in anyway, however yours looks great!!

 

[T1KARMANN]

lets just call them silver tigers just because young fry is found in brakish water doesnt mean the fish spends all of its life in brackish water the adults my just move to brakish water to spawn

i have never owned a silver tiger but have know people and shops that keep them in full fresh water with no problems at all

dat cambelli i have kept in full fresh water for close to 5yrs with no problems at all

so if you go on the stuff you read then the silver tiger and dat cambelli both need brackish water which i can say 100% for sure dat cambelli dont need

 

[T1KARMANN]

if you have hiding places you will never see the tiger

While you're probably right, I can't say this is a way of keeping fish that makes me feel a little uneasy. If a fish that likes hiding can't hide, it's an unhappy fish. To me, this is right up there with keeping spiny eels without sand or plecs without bogwood. Can you keep them this way? Probably yes. Is it much fun for the fish? Probably not.

their is no need to put any tiger in a brackish tank freshwater is fine

I'm afraid I disagree. Datnioides campbelli and Datnioides polota (what used to be called D. quadrifasciatus) are both brackish water fish in the wild, and it is hard to imagine that they do as well in freshwater conditions in captivity. The other species appear to be strictly freshwater fish in the wild, though they do have considerable salt tolerance. Given the high price of Datnioides campbelli, I'd personally recommend keeping it in brackish water simply to optimise its living conditions and hopefully lifespand.

Cheers, Neale

if you are trying to keep the fish in as natural enviroment as possable then you need to keep just one tiger on its own in muddy murkey waters as thats how they would live in the wild

dont belive everything you read on the net unless you have kept them yourself

dat cambelli can be kept in full fresh water i have and am doing it for the past 5yrs same fish

if the info is wrong for dat cambelli then why should we belive the silver tiger info but i have never kept them so im not 100% sure on silver tigers

the dat cambelli in my full fresh water tank does better than some of my pulchers which are ment to be kept in full fresh i cant see how keeping my cambelli in brackish would make it any better than it is