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Are there any loaches which are UNDER 10cm, preferably not Corydoras. [I do like them I just want something different.]

pH - 6.5-7.5
Hardness 5-15
Length of tank - 3ft
Width ' ' - 45cm
Height ' ' - 55cm

Any ideas?
 
Loads of loaches would suit those basic criteria.

Is this tank empty of fish and wanted critters, or are their existing inhabitants that the loaches need to be compatable with?
 
I haven't got the tank yet but it will be:

pH - 6.5-7.5
Hardness 5-15
Length of tank - 3ft
Width ' ' - 45cm
Height ' ' - 55cm [Around]

And it will have:
2 Banded Gouramis
12 Rummynose Tetras
12 Neon Tetras
2 Bristlenose
8 Congo Tetras
 
As per your thread from yesterday (having seen your planned list and it sounding familar), http://www.fishforums.net/index.php?/topic/395975-noob-question/page__p__3328589#entry3328589 , your plans are very ambitious for a 3-foot tank.

Congo Tetras (Phenacogrammus interrruptus) grow too big for such a tank, they become chunky ~10cm fish as adults, I was shocked when I saw an adult at Southsea's public marine and freshwater aquarium last year.

By and large, the extra height on this aquarium makes little difference to a reasonable stocking list, an FX5 filter does not mean you can fill this tank with more fish... All it means is you should have less change of an ammonia or nitrite spike once this filter has been cycled, but it is still going to be down to you to regularly change the water to prevent a gradual toxic buildup of nitrate. However, ~2300lph of flow in a ~200l tank is going to mean a lot of current, which again rules out the Congo Tetras but also the Banded Gourami and Neon tetras. The BN Catfish will love it and the Rummynose will probably tolerate it.

There are loaches out there that would love a strong current that would be suitable for this tank without being a "hillstream loach", for instance Dwarf Chain Loaches, but I feel you need go and think what setup you really want... A high current riverine setup, or a calm backwater tank (which means looking at a filter rated at no more than 1000lph) that could include the Banded Gourami.
 
As per your thread from yesterday (having seen your planned list and it sounding familar), http://www.fishforums.net/index.php?/topic/395975-noob-question/page__p__3328589#entry3328589 , your plans are very ambitious for a 3-foot tank.

Congo Tetras (Phenacogrammus interrruptus) grow too big for such a tank, they become chunky ~10cm fish as adults, I was shocked when I saw an adult at Southsea's public marine and freshwater aquarium last year.

By and large, the extra height on this aquarium makes little difference to a reasonable stocking list, an FX5 filter does not mean you can fill this tank with more fish... All it means is you should have less change of an ammonia or nitrite spike once this filter has been cycled, but it is still going to be down to you to regularly change the water to prevent a gradual toxic buildup of nitrate. However, ~2300lph of flow in a ~200l tank is going to mean a lot of current, which again rules out the Congo Tetras but also the Banded Gourami and Neon tetras. The BN Catfish will love it and the Rummynose will probably tolerate it.

There are loaches out there that would love a strong current that would be suitable for this tank without being a "hillstream loach", for instance Dwarf Chain Loaches, but I feel you need go and think what setup you really want... A high current riverine setup, or a calm backwater tank (which means looking at a filter rated at no more than 1000lph) that could include the Banded Gourami.


OK thanks for that I'll have to do some thinking...
The Congo Tetras however, everywhere I've seen says 3ft is fine. :blink:
Filter-wise is there anything you recommend?
 
SeriouslyFish is often (but not always) a good starting point to get an idea of the needs of many common species. What you have to remember is that anyone can set up a website and post information on it or add a post to a forum thread, which could be lies or half-truths rather than sound advice, the internet is a double-edged sword in that respect. Like with most research, it pays to look at many sources and try to find the common ground.

SF suggests a minimum of 120x30x30cm tank for adult Congo Tetras by the way, I'll leave it for you to visit the site to see what they say about this fish and others you have in mind. ;)

Edit: As regards filtration, a lot of it will come down to what setup you want (calm backwater or torrential riverine currents) for the type of fish you want, it often pays to pick a specific species as your "must have fish" which you then focus the tank setup around and then any tankmates that are good match on various criteria (temp; water current; general activity; boisterous greedy feeders or shyness at dinner time; general territorial nature etc.). An FX5 would give you the option of a rapids setup (which could be toned down), but for the ~£200 they cost these days you could get an All Ponds Soltions 2000EF for ~£60 each, which depending upon how many spraybar modules you add can be made to give approx 800-1200lph real world turnover. I have both, the FX5 is my main filter in my 5x2x2 providing loads of current and water surface rippling, but I have an APS2000EF in my 48x12x15 with one spraybar module and it is a moderate current (plus another with no spraybars as a secondary filter in my 5x2x2).
 
:crazy:
Whoops I said my tank was 3ft again [forgot to say inches]
It's actually about 110cm.

Thanks for the advice on the AllPondSolutions filter I'll look into it.
 

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