Angelfish

[Anonymous Fox]

hello, i was wondering if you could give me any care about angelfish/cichlids? i'm gonna get some soon and put them in a planted aquaium, my one big question is if they could live with common red freshwater lobsters. i have a very tall 48 gallon, how many could i fit? its were meserments, its like a hexigon shape... its my moms old saltwater, curently being used by my sionr syian hamster,wich i will move to a retiremet bin cage soon and i will do a good clean on that (but not with soap, of couse)


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unicornblast 5000

 

[Anonymous Fox]

hello, i was wondering if you could give me any care about angelfish/cichlids? i'm gonna get some soon and put them in a planted aquaium, my one big question is if they could live with common red freshwater lobsters. i have a very tall 48 gallon, how many could i fit? its were meserments, its like a hexigon shape... its my moms old saltwater, curently being used by my sionr syian hamster,wich i will move to a retiremet bin cage soon and i will do a good clean on that (but not with soap, of couse)


yall better be self insolating, (check profile)

unicornblast 5000

sorry for all the typos lol wen i said were meserments i ment weird meserments, i forgot to say i will try to share pics of the tank

 

[Sgooosh]

what are "meserments?" like measurements? i think not, the lobsters might harm the angels.

 

[Anonymous Fox]

what are "meserments?" like measurements? i think not, the lobsters might harm the angels.

yep, i have the spelling and grammar as a 7 year old lol

 

[cdelly]

Hi and welcome

Angelfish do benefit from having a tall tank, but the hexagon tanks tend to be not very wide.

You need to have at least 5 or 6 to try lessen the violence they will let loose on each other.

If you can start with 5 or 6 you may ended up with a pair, you will just need to rehome the extras.

Again it depends on the width.

Personally would not trust any lobster/crayfish in with fish, the can opportunist eaters

 

[Anonymous Fox]

Hi and welcome

Angelfish do benefit from having a tall tank, but the hexagon tanks tend to be not very wide.

You need to have at least 5 or 6 to try lessen the violence they will let loose on each other.

If you can start with 5 or 6 you may ended up with a pair, you will just need to rehome the extras.

Again it depends on the width.

Personally would not trust any lobster/crayfish in with fish, the can opportunist eaters

ok, here, this is not pics but a better discripton of the measurements

 

[Byron]

Might as well be truthful from the start...fish and crustaceans like lobsters are not compatible.

Second issue is likely the tank size and the behaviours of the angelfish. [I see another member has posted while I've been typing, on similar lines.] Angelfish may seem small fish in store tanks, but they grow larger than many realize, with a body length of 6 inches (15 cm) and a vertical fin span of 8-9 inches (20-22 cm). This requires a spacious tank. It is a shoaling fish, meaning it lives in groups; it is possible to have one or a bonded male/female pair on their own, in a suitable tank, but beyond that no fewer than five or six (preferably more) but that in itself can mean trouble if a pair forms, or a male becomes aggressive. A 4-foot (120 cm) length tank would be minimum, and preferably longer, but if a pair forms or trouble ensues, you need a back-up plan to separate the fish.

I am not in favour of keeping a fish contrary to its expectations, as this can cause serious stress and behavioural problems.

 

[dsch132]

I wouldn't add the lobsters. Angelfish have very long delicate fins that often get torn up by fin nippers (and occasionally each other). I don't like the look of those pincers...

 

[cdelly]

So it's prob equal to about 3x2x2, if I'm reading your sizes right.

You could get away with 6 angels in that but you will still need to rehome any that don't pair up.

Also I would wash it out so much after hamsters have used it.

 

[Byron]

Having now seen the tank measurements, this tank could hold a bonded pair, but most certainly not a group. A bonded pair means the two fish have encountered one another withn a group and decided to form a pair--something that is not the norm for this species, they can be very fussy when it comes to finding mates. And a "pair" of angelfish that try "marriage" but can't make a go of it usually results in a dead female; in the habitat they cold easily escape one another, but not in an aquarium.

 

[dsch132]

Additionally, I have experience with angels and their attitudes. Your tank is not very wide and, therefore, doesn't have much room for an angelfish to escape from a confrontation. The real function of space and cover when you're dealing with semi aggressive fish is to give them an escape route and break up their line of sight. I would be hesitant. You would have to watch them very carefully.

 

[Anonymous Fox]

So it's prob equal to about 3x2x2, if I'm reading your sizes right.

You could get away with 6 angels in that but you will still need to rehome any that don't pair up.

Also I would wash it out so much after hamsters have used it.

will do, thanks for the info

 

[Anonymous Fox]

Additionally, I have experience with angels and their attitudes. Your tank is not very wide and, therefore, doesn't have much room for an angelfish to escape from a confrontation. The real function of space and cover when you're dealing with semi aggressive fish is to give them an escape route and break up their line of sight. I would be hesitant. You would have to watch them very carefully.

but, like, how do you tell the diffrence between fighting and playing? should i add some hides? how do i tell who started the fight?

 

[Anonymous Fox]

ok so, could i get 4 angel fish and two cichlids? angel fish ARE cichlids right?

 

[PlasticGalaxy]

ok so, could i get 4 angel fish and two cichlids? angel fish ARE cichlids right?

What kind of cichlids? Cichlids are a large group, so it depends what fish you mean.