Angel set up

[LynX]

Im thinking of getting a new tank, i wanna do alot of preparation and in no way in a hurry, i was wondering wats a good size tank for keeping just angels in? and wat are their plant/water requirements?, i am looking at websites on the net but i would rather hear good advice from some expierienced angel owners, as ive had angels in a community tank before and the other fish bully them to death, or the angels die because the water wasnt absolutely perfect ... so this is why i wanna start a new tank just for angels soo i can give them the best posible enviroment

any help will be much appreciated

 

[Guppylover]

I'm not a angel keeper but I do know a bit on them. Well you have to have a large tank... about 25gallon, well around that or 140litres. You do know that angels grow very large, do you? Plants well any really, with water levels it would be ph 6.0 - 7.0, the water hardness would be soft and temperature around 24-28C. Hope that helps ^__^

 

[LynX]

thnx, by soft do u mean 100 - 150 or lower than 100?

 

[Liz05]

I've never kept angels, but I do know that they do best in taller tanks, rather than wider ones. I've seen some really pretty setups in those 50 gallon tall octagon tanks.

 

[tstenback]

Here are a couple of links one and two that should help you get started. If you are trying to breed them eventually the best thing to do is pick out 4-8 juvenile angels and let them pair up naturally. The tank should be at least 18" high and should allow for the full grown size of the angelfish that will remain in the tank. Normally the minimum for a full grown angel is 10 gals per fish, so if you were going to keep 4 then you shoould have a tank that is minimum 40 gals and 18 " high. It should be well planted with tall broadleaf plants and have soft acidic water. HTH

 

[LynX]

thnx alot
.. hmm so if i was to keep 8 angels that would be 80 galons , hmm wat bout the fry? i will have to have an extra few gallons for them too, i do plan on sellin most the fry. so is it ok to have it really tall but not wide ? or should i get one that is like 18 inches tall and like 40 inches long? wat dimensions am i looking at?

 

[DOLORES]

yes ,it is ok, angels preffers a tall tank becuz of their veil fins, to start off, if you dont want a big thing, and keep angels, buy a 29 gallons (30x12.5x18 inchs) i only keep 2 angels there 3 otos and a cory cat, i'll see what i'll do with it if the angels die or not when its finish cycling

 

[tstenback]

thnx alot
.. hmm so if i was to keep 8 angels that would be 80 galons , hmm wat bout the fry? i will have to have an extra few gallons for them too, i do plan on sellin most the fry. so is it ok to have it really tall but not wide ? or should i get one that is like 18 inches tall and like 40 inches long? wat dimensions am i looking at?

If you want to keep 8 full grown angels in the same tank, yes. When in angel mode i usually get 8 yongsters and as they pair off i put the pairs in their own tank with some cories. Usually 29 gal as it is high enough 18" and when planted still gives the pair plenty of room. The ones that dont pair up stay in the original tank to hopefully live out long happy lives. I start them in a 50 gal which is 36x18x19 and this will be the home of the ones that dont pair off. Also have various sizes of tanks for grow out of the fry. and if you have more than one breeding pair you will need many tanks. Good Luck and have fun with this, there is no greater reward in fish keeping than to have a pair of fish feel that good, about the environment that you have created, that they will breed.

 

[heresmike]

The water does not have to be soft and acidic for angels (edit ... unless you're talking about wild angels). I keep angels in my water, which is roughly pH 7.9 and hardness = 300ppm, and they're thriving. Most fish will adapt to your water conditions... rule of thumb is...as long as you can drink it, it s/b safe for your fish. Furthermore, if you buy from your LFS, chances are they are bred locally and already used to your water conditions.

As far as plants, you'll want to choose something that is not too fine-leafed because they tend to nibble on plants. As an example, I planted some anacharis in my angel tank, and the next day it was stripped clean and just the stalks remained! I now have hygrophilia, anubias, amazon swords, crypts, onion plants. All are fairly broadleafed and they leave them all alone.

 

[tstenback]

The water does not have to be soft and acidic for angels (edit ... unless you're talking about wild angels).

Hey you changed that on me Iwas just replying that yes you are definitely right and that i was just quoting from the old testament (flashback). Thanks for picking it up.

 

[LynX]

ok, this angel setup is going to have to wait, for now i think i will get another 15 gal to house betta fry , but in a few yrs i may get an angel setup well thnx for ur help, and thnx for not letting me make a huge mistake, and shoving in a couple of angels in my 15 gal community