Angel Problem!

Maybe a salt bath for the 1 white angel as its fins have got very bad ? or will this cause stress and make it worse. i carnt add salt to the tank because of 2 masked corys, and the 2 siamease algae eaters they are loaches. Id stress all the fish trying to catch those 4 .
If a salt dip is suitable i think ill do it tomorrow, give the already added meds a chance to kick in.
 
Just give the meds time to work for now,good luck.
 
:thumbs: Fantastic news!!! Im sure the ruptured veins are going down, theres a slight lessening in visability of the deep red veins within the angels bodys.
They are still there but slightly faded, compared to the last 2 days. Split fins are still there but have not got any worse.
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I did a full water test last night just in case the meds have affected the biological filter and every thing was with in spec. Also did another test today just to be sure.
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Im hoping this is the turn around the fish have been waiting for.
Ive another dose of the internal med tomorrow. ;)
 
I'm sure wilder will be relieved to hear they are gettting better.

Just keep up with water changes and im sure they will get better soon. :thumbs:
 
:/ Ive had another problem now , the water has got more and more cloudy as the evening has gone by.
Then the fish have started to breath heavy again, so ive done a 50 Ltr water change and have checked for amonia spike , but the test is ok .
The angels have bunched up in the 1 corner and some are swimming and shimmying, looking uncomfotable again. :no:
Why have i got a bacterial bloom in the water? making it cloudy!
im going to redose the tank again tomorrow!
 
Ive decided to do a half dose of the fungus and fin rot now, im adding it slowly to the tank as not too stress the plecs out.
It seems like the flexibactor C, is on the way to making the fishes lives hell again. The 3 boesmans rainbows are shimmiying now and the 2 siamease algae eaters carnt settle down either.
Ill do the internal med in the morning.
 
It's apart of the course that meds make the water cloudy, can you increase aeration, your'e using two meds so it won't be good on the bacterial colony, test water, done the right thing with a water change if stats are off, but you have to add the med back again as you are diluting it down, not easy that's why is best ot have a hospital tank, as you are putting the whole tank at risk, keep us all updated.
 
How they doing.
 
well today the tank has been cloudy all day ive added another pump to increase airation, most of the angels dont seem to have got worse until this afternoon. The biggest white angel has starend to go red towards its tail end of the body, now this evening its redening has got worse and the fish has lost control of its tail muscles, seems unable to use it.
My last attempt is to give it a salt bath, but im quite certain the infection is too far gone.

How mad- as yesteday morning ALL the angels looked like they were going to get better.
Now today- seeing how unpredictable this is im realy not sure whos going to live?
Also why the misty bloom in my tank and now this evening it has dissapeerd?

As for meds :
I added more of the fungus & finrot last night due to the emergency water change would of diluted it.
Today ive added dose 2 of the internal med.
The white angel is in an airated bucket of aqua tonic salt at the moment.
 
If this flexibacter bacteria is always present in ones tank, so i read on the 1 link, how did the angel that i introduced cause this to happen.
What is the connection between adding this latest fish ( that died ) causing this bacterial out break in my tank?
 
Sorry but if it has redding at the tail septicemia has now kicked in, yes the desease lives in your tank, all it takes is a desease fish to higher th levels of bacteria, they can surivive with parasites, but once they start to get stress with meds and fluatation in tempreture it dosn't take much for the desease to set in even further, all you can do is hope for the best, that why is always best to quarantine new fish, most fiish have parasites it just takes a stressful siutation to kick it off same as other deseases.

Not the writer of this information below.


Symptoms:

Fish may have reddening at fin bases, blood streaks throughout the fins and body, small hemorrhages around the eyes. Dull listless behavior and lack of appetite may also be present.



Cause:

Systemic bacterial infection caused by various bacteria, including Aeromonas, Pseudomonas and Vibrio. The illness is often brought on by poor water quality or as a result of parasitic infestations or other infections. These bacteria enter the blood stream and circulate through the tissues causing inflammation and damage. Inflamed blood vessels in the skin and at fin bases stand out. Blood vessel and heart tissue damage cause hemorrhaging and consequently leakage of body fluids into the abdomen, which may lead to Dropsy.



Treatment:

Water conditions must be improved for all fish in the tank, regardless of how many fish are infected. Check your water’s Treat with Kanacyn or Tetracycline as well as with a medicated food if the fish will eat. If parasites are suspected, all the fish in the tank should be treated with antiparasitic medication. Using salt to help restore osmotic balance might be helpful.
 
The biggest white angel did die last night afterwards, the other white angel is as gutted as i am. :no:
Carnt realy say if any of them have got worse.
Ill keep you updated.
 
Sorry, R.I.P. it's a very nasty desease it can wipe a whole tank out, septecemia is common with columnaris sorry again, hope the bad luck has passed now.
 

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