Angel Fish

[nsf323]

I am currently setting up my new Fluval Venezia 190 Ltr corner tank and have started to think about the fish I want to keep. My first thoughts are for Zebra danios, neons together with a couple of angels. My question is will the angels attack the others? Also can someone advise me how many fish, of the type I've mentioned, a tank of this size will hold.

 

[guppy_man]

uhhh... i think thats around 40 something gallons, not quite sure though. 2 Angelfish would be fine for that size tank aslong as its 18" or taller. Neon tetras are the angel fish's main food in the wild, so i wouldn't suggest putting neons in there or danios, unless they are the giant type. Avoid any fish that are small such as guppies tetras ect as they will get attacked and even eaten.
Maybe you could have a few bottom dwellers such as... cories?... bristlenose plecs?.....loaches? (clown loach will get too big though), but there are other types around.
Hope i have helped

 

[stormy78]

The 190 is 50 US Gallons and just under 42 Imperial Gallons

 

[rabbut]

How are you planning to cycle the tank?

IME angels and cardinals (the more colourful cusin of the neon) is fine so long as the angel is grown up with the smaller tetras. This IME stopps them seeing the tetras a food. I wouldn't advise adding to the group of tetras with the angels in there, or adding an adult angel to the tank with the tetras presant, as this seemes to start the angels hunting unfortunately

You have near enough 50 gallons, so you are looking at roughly something like the following;

4 angels (assuming over 18inches tall)
10 neons
10 danios

I'd mebe add 6 corries to that too, just to add some life to the bottom of the tank Some may see this as overstocked most of the fish take very low waste producers, so the stocking IMO is readily doable with the filtration supplied.

HTH
Rabbut

 

[nsf323]

Thanks for your comments - I am not sure what is ment by IME of MEBE

The tank is 98cm x 70cm x 60cm 190 litres which is 41.8 gallons

My thoughts are to slowly introduce firstly 7 cardinals then 7 zebra danios together with 2 sucking loaches and 2 Bristlenose Catfish and finally 2 x Angel fish - I would also like to add 7 Glowlights but I am sure sure how they will be with the Angels - is there a larger version of Glowlight much the same as Cardinals are larger than Neon Tetras.

 

[Miss Wiggle]

you should do a fishless cycle before adding any fish, there's pinned topics at the top of the new to the hobby section telling you how to do this. it'll be much safer for the fish and less hassle for you.



which species do you mean by 'sucking loach' there's plenty of fish which go by this common name, some of them get enormous and are way too big for your tank. so be absolutley clear that the species is appropriate before you get them.

other than that the cardinals, danio's, BN's, and angels should be fine. I'd swap out the glowlights for a shoal of cories, you should try and distribute the fish across the tank (some like to be at the top, some at the middle, some at the bottom) and the stocking you suggest is pretty top heavy.

 

[waterdrop]

I've had community tanks where zebra danios are zipping around the top, a cardinal school is moving around the middle and a pair of angels are exploring around the middle a lot and cories are moving about the substrate - very common and works well. rabbut's comments are very accurate.

Miss Wiggles' comment is very important - the Nitrogen Cycle is fundamental and must be learned about. Its important for members to see whether you are off to a good start on this prior to worrying about which fish to stock.

~~waterdrop~~

 

[nsf323]

Thanks - I'll give some more thought to the sucking loach and glowlights - I would not introduce fish until I have completed a fishless cycle

you should do a fishless cycle before adding any fish, there's pinned topics at the top of the new to the hobby section telling you how to do this. it'll be much safer for the fish and less hassle for you.



which species do you mean by 'sucking loach' there's plenty of fish which go by this common name, some of them get enormous and are way too big for your tank. so be absolutley clear that the species is appropriate before you get them.

other than that the cardinals, danio's, BN's, and angels should be fine. I'd swap out the glowlights for a shoal of cories, you should try and distribute the fish across the tank (some like to be at the top, some at the middle, some at the bottom) and the stocking you suggest is pretty top heavy.

 

[waterdrop]

Thanks - I'll give some more thought to the sucking loach and glowlights - I would not introduce fish until I have completed a fishless cycle

you should do a fishless cycle before adding any fish, there's pinned topics at the top of the new to the hobby section telling you how to do this. it'll be much safer for the fish and less hassle for you.



which species do you mean by 'sucking loach' there's plenty of fish which go by this common name, some of them get enormous and are way too big for your tank. so be absolutley clear that the species is appropriate before you get them.

other than that the cardinals, danio's, BN's, and angels should be fine. I'd swap out the glowlights for a shoal of cories, you should try and distribute the fish across the tank (some like to be at the top, some at the middle, some at the bottom) and the stocking you suggest is pretty top heavy.

And Miss Wiggle wrote one of the articles that is a good starting place: Click on Beginners Resource Center, Cycling Resource Center and look for the one by her and also another by AlienAnna. The pinned article by rdd1952 is the main working article (the add and wait method) most of us use as a baseline and excellent guide to follow. You can find some nice diagrams on Wikipedia about the nitrogen cycle.

~~waterdrop~~

 

[rabbut]

After fishless cycling, you add all your fish in one go, as the cycle builds all be bacteria you need in the 4 weeks (adverage) over which you will be adding ammonia. Adding fish slowly after this time allows your bacteria to die off again, and puts you into a situation where you may have a mini-cycle after adding the next round of fish. The mothod you describe is known as fish-in cycling, and is very bad for your fishes long-term health.

HTH
Rabbut

PS, IME means In my experience. Not sure myself of MEBE...