am i fully stocked?

[jimbooo]

Hi everyone.

I have got to the following stage with my 40G (180L) tank and just want to check if i'm fully stocked or got room for more...

current fish:

6 Zebra Danio
4 Boesmani Rainbow
1 Angelfish
1 pleco (still only 4 inches)
1 swordtail
1 red claw crab

plus bubble wall, big piece of bogwood and 5 live plants.

what do you think?

 

[glolite]

You can have some more plants but I'm too newbie to help with the fish much. My amateur instinct says you've probably got more room left. A few more angels might look nice, I'd like angels next.

 

[jimbooo]

i'd love more angels but they fight like hell. i have 2 already but have had to put the smaller one in the 10G until i can find him a new home. Quite nasty things when they want to be.

oh should have said i have upgraded tubes (original tropical and marine white) with reflectors

 

[glolite]

Thanks for the tip, will stick to one baby angel as I don't want it to eat my gowlight tetras.

 

[jimbooo]

i'm not 100% but i think tetras (in particular Cardinal Tetras) are the natural diet for angel fish.

i have 6 big cardinal tetras in with the small angel and i think i've just about got away with it as theyre growing fast.

be carefull though.... expensive fish food..

 

[glolite]

Arrrg! ickle glowlights my babies, started of my fish keeping addiction with them.
No hungry angels for me then

 

[jimbooo]

has anyone else got any comments i'm still quite new to this and would like the opinion of some of you experts out there!!!

 

[sylvia]

I'm no expert but I would say you do have room for more provided that you are aware of the pleco's potential size and realise he should be re-homed and replaced by something smaller (I'm assuming he's a common - why not get a bristlenose?).
I feel obliged to voice that I don't approve of people buying fish that will outgrow their tanks. The fact that you included the plec's current size makes me think you know how he will grow and I've always encouraged the stocking of a tank with the fish' adult sizes in mind - never the current size. If this is a common plec or similarly large plec he's going to bet to 18 inches and once he begins to outgrow his current tank he will become difficult to re-home due to size. I'd urge you to re-home him while he's still reasonably sized and get something smaller befpre you add any other fish. If, on the other hand, he is not a large-growing plec, feel free to get more fish right now.

 

[glolite]

Which pleco would be suitable for a 40g tank? Sorry I should start a new thread but I have to move my common plec as he will grow too big ( Inherited him didn't buy him).

 

[sylvia]

Bristlenose, clown, golden nugget, zebra, bulldog/rubbernose, many 'peckoltias'... Make sure you research each first as some have specific requirements or won't do well with certain fish - bristlenoses are the best as far as I'm concerned and will eat algae too and don't require bogwood like many other plecs do, nor do they need to be in groups or are fragile and you can tell the male from female easily as well.

 

[SilverDollar_03]

yeah, imo you have room 4 about 15 inches of fish in there. go 4 it

 

[FrAnK3333]

get maybe a pair of rams and more zerbas

 

[Sanj]

Angels will not necesarily eat your glowlights, it the Angels is introduced when small, it will not regard them as food (generally).

 

[sylvia]

Emphasis on the GENERALY - Just want to make it clear that this isn't always the case. I've tried keeping angels from when they are young with small fish and it almost always ended in disaster. Most fish simply can't resist their natural food - which is what small tetras are for angels. It is possible but I don't like risking fish lives only to be proven wrong.

 

[Paul_MTS]

I'm surpised no ones mentioned that crab yet.

Well if he gets the chance he will gladly take your fish stcok out 1 by one making quite a mess out of each victim.

Assuming you haven't made any land out of the water for him he will porbable escape aswell. Red crabs are best kept to a species tank