About To Put Some Fish In

[MarkR]

I will have had my tank set up for 2 weeks this Saturday and I would like to introduce some fish. HELP!!!

I have decided that I would like to put female bettas in as they are very colourful and good to look at (My technical term )

Here is a small list of the fish I would like to introduce and I would appreciate any feedback if it will or wont work

x3 Female Bettas (Simese Fighters)

x2 Silver sharks

x5 Neon tetras

x2 Clown loaches

x5 Cardinal tetras

x2 Swordtails

x5 Harlequin Rasbora

x 1 Orangefin Loach

x5 Rummy nose tetras

I would also like to get a fish keeps the sand bed clean.

I will not be adding all of these at once if these fish can live together without harming each other. If there are to many fish on the list please let me know.

How many fish can I add on Saturday?

The tank I have is a Juwel Trigon 190 and the diemsions are 98L x 60H x 70W cm or (39.2" L x 24" H x 28" W)


Many thanks is advance.

 

[b.c.f.c]

im not too sure about the bettas as 5 or more is the right ammount of female bettas together rearly.cardinals and neons are very simular so y not pick just the one of them and make up the numbers of the one you choose.the only real problem i can see is the bettas.dont know a lot about the orange fin loach though.and if you dont want to have fry off the swords then get 2 females.

 

[MarkR]

Thanks for the reply. I will probably go for Cardinal Tetras and not bother with the Neons.

So if I put 5 Bettas in then the communtiy I have chosen should work?

 

[b.c.f.c]

yes i would think so but its probly best to post on the bettas board for more info on that.

 

[MarkR]

Will do, thanks B.C.F.C

 

[Durbkat]

You can't put rummy nose tetras or any other kind of tetras or Harlequin Rasbora. Most likly the only fish you can put with female bettas are clown loaches, possibly swordtails and thats it. Why don't you make it into a soroity tank with just female bettas? If you don't want to do that just leave the female bettas out and get those other fish that you want to get.

 

[emma12321]

Hi,

Your tank holds 41.794 uk gallons or 50.207 US gallons and so is too small to house silver sharks as they grow 14 inches long and should be kept in groups of 3+ in 125 gallon + tanks. The loaches should be kept in groups of 3+ of the same variety and as clowns grow 12 inches long you would need to upgrade to a bigger tank in future but they can take 40 years to reach this size.

The tetras and rasboras are fine, neons and cardinals will school together. Swordtails should be kept 1 male to 2 or more females or as an all female group. The bettas would be better in a larger group, aggression depends on the individual fish so be prepared to rehouse if necessary.

Personally i would go with a group of smaller growing loach like botia striata or maybe a group of corys instead. I would choose cardinals instead of neons as they seem hardier in my experience and go with 8 each of the rummynose, harlequins anf cardinals.

Emma

 

[WILDER]

I agree 190litres no good for clown loaches or silver sharks need very large tanks, the silver sharks need a 125gal, clown loaches 90gal, plus you cant keep betta together only females.

 

[MarkR]

Thanks for the replies.

So am I safe to keep the Bettas with the Tetras or is it best to keep these seperate as mentioned by Durbkat?

And lastly which fish out of the group should I introduce first and how many?

 

[nino]

Thanks for the replies.

So am I safe to keep the Bettas with the Tetras or is it best to keep these seperate as mentioned by Durbkat?

And lastly which fish out of the group should I introduce first and how many?

I wouldn't keep bettas with tetras. I really think if you want female bettas, dedicate the tank to that. It can be risky mixing them because females can be just as aggressive with other fish as males can, I have found mine to be even fiester than my male, but they do not bother the cories. What about 12+ female bettas and a nice school of cories (6 or so). THat would look great in my opinion.

 

[lljdma06]

You can't put rummy nose tetras or any other kind of tetras or Harlequin Rasbora. Most likly the only fish you can put with female bettas are clown loaches, possibly swordtails and thats it. Why don't you make it into a soroity tank with just female bettas? If you don't want to do that just leave the female bettas out and get those other fish that you want to get.

Durbkat, I kept bettas with harlequin rasboras for a long time, and they're fine together. They're in my 15g right now. I wouldn't put swordtails with bettas since the bettas will be attracted to any brightly colored fish with fins that stick out. A description that is pretty accurate for a male swordtail.

Mark, instead of trying to keep everything, why don't you just build larger schools of only a few species. If you opt for the schooling tetras and rasboras and nix the bettas, you'll get better schooling behavior with 10 rather than 5. If you get the bettas, nix the tetras and swordtails. With a single betta splendens or a small group of betta imbellis, I find the small rasboras to be ideal companions.

Go for the smaller loaches. Kuhlies love sand substrate and a school of 6 or so would be very fun. Now, if you want to be ubercool, go for a biotope. 6-8 kuhlies, 10-15 rasboras, and either a group of imbellis or one male betta splendens.

If C. and S. America strikes your fancy. 10-15 of the rummynose, a lovely fish, if kept under good conditions. 8 corydoras, one trio of swordtails (not really from S. America, but they are a nice fish), and 4-6 otos for algae maintenance. The otos should be the last fish added, preferably after 6 months of problem-free tank existence.

When stocking, you always add fish slowly. I hope you are planning to do a fishless cycle? That thought just occured to me. Read the pinned article in the forum on fishless cycling.

 

[emma12321]

From your list of wanted fish, the harlequins would be the best to add first as i have found them to be really hardy. Are you doing a fishless cycle?

Emma

 

[osteoporoosi]

Clown loaches grow way too large, 150 gallons/school is the minimum. After all, clowns grow up to a foot.

I would go with an asian biotope, kuhli loaches(sand bottom required), a group of female bettas and a school of harlquin/hengeli rasboras.

 

[Luke & Penny]

My betta gets on fine with my neons and harlequins, same as my clown loach and red tailed shark.
And YES i do have my clown loach on its own and has never been a problem in fact its done better since being away from a group, a lady down the road keeps clown loaches solely and has some that are older than i thought possible and are no way near a foot in length, and the tanks are 400litre Uk tanks.

Its not textbook remember that

 

[osteoporoosi]

In my opinion keeping a social fish on its own is one of the worst mistakes that a fishkeeper can do- school and tank size recommendations should always be considered when people buy fish.
The best way is to do research how the specie naturally lives- clowns live in schools in the wild.