A Fungus Amongus?

[FishWishDish]

My black moor has white stuff on the front edges of his pectoral fins, and his mouth sometimes appears a bit white, mostly on the inside.

Is this:

A) Fungus
B ) Columnaris
C) Breeding tubercles
D) Ick
E) Other

I'm leaning toward fungus and was thinking of using 1/2 or 1/4 dose of Jungle Buddy's Fungus cure tablets which say they cure A&B, and since C wouldn't need a cure that would leave D as the only thing that could be missed, and he doesn't have any other white spots anywhere, and neither do the other fish (manufacturer suggested 1/2 dose b/c there's a catfish in the same tank, I'm thinking 1/4 because I want to make sure it doesn't hurt any of them at all -- dissolved in replacement/dechlor water with the carbon removed from the filter) but wanted to make sure I have the right diagnosis. If so, should I treat the community tank or take him out to another tank to treat separately? I figure if the others have anything I don't see, it theoretically can't hurt for them to get a little treatment too, right? Or wrong?

What do breeding tubercles look like on a Black Moor? He's definitely a male so is that possibly all it is?

Thanks!

 

[guppy fan]

I think it would be best if you put him in a hospital tank for the treetment. That way you can give him the hole dose, and you other fish will not have to be exposed to the illness as long. Giving him too low of a dose may not do anything. Sorry, I don't know what he has. Good luk!

 

[backtotropical]

Hi,

What does this white stuff look like? Sugar granules? Cotton wool?

I wouldn't advise treating until you have a positive ID on the problem. Think about it in human terms, it probably wouldn't do you much good if the doc treated tou for TB when all you had was a bit of a cough.

It's much more effective to use the proper treatment after a proper ID than using a random treatment just in case.

Also, can you post a pic?

Cheers

BTT

 

[FishWishDish]

They look like little bumpy sugar granules - but if it were ick it's odd to me that it would be confined to the edges of the pectoral fins, where the breeding tubercles are said to come in (and he is in breeding mode).

I agree, I don't want to treat unnecessarily, but don't want it to get worse if it's something that needs treatment, either. . .

I took some pics but haven't yet figured out how to post them. I'll try again later.

 

[FishWishDish]

OK I added a picture to my profile -- you can see some white bumpies on his pectoral fins and his mouth looks white around the edges at times.
It doesn't seem to be spreading or getting worse, so columnaris is probably not it, there aren't any white dots anywhere else so it's probably not ick. I suspect either fungus or breeding tubercles? Anyone know for sure?

Thanks for your help!

 

[FishWishDish]

Anyone?

 

[WILDER]

Size of tank in gallons or litres.
How many fish and which type.
Water stats in ammonia,nitrite,nitrate, and ph.

Bumps on pectoral on fins are breeding tubercles.

White mouth is flexibactor columnaris.
Uk myxazin and pimafix.
United states maracyn one and two.
<a href="http/thegab.org/Articles/GoldfishExternalAnatomy.html" target="_blank">http/thegab.org/Articles/GoldfishExternalAnatomy.html</a>

Taken from link.
Pectoral Fins: The two pectoral fins are used for steering. Male goldfish, when they reach sexual maturity will often develop white bumps called nuptial tubercles or breeding stars along the leading ray of their pectoral fins. Some people say that the first ray of the pectoral fin is rather thick and stiff in male golfish (compared to those of female goldfish). Some people also believe that male goldfish have longer pectoral fins that do female goldfish. If the goldfish is ill, it may clamp the pectoral fins close to its body.

http/www.thetropicaltank.co.uk/hdcolumn.htm

 

[FishWishDish]

Thanks - if it's breeding tubercles will they cycle between black and white on a black moor? (times of recession vs. times of prominence?) If so, how long do they usually stay white? He didn't have them before. . .

It's a 55-gallon tank
ammonia: 0
nitrite: 0
nitrate 10-40 (well water starts out with 10, keeping it 40 or below w/water changes)
PH: 7.6-7.8
4 fancy goldfish and a common pleco

 

[WILDER]

I would ask in the coldwater section you will have more experienced goldfish keepers over there,.

 

[FishWishDish]

Thanks I will do that!