75 Gallon Re-Stock

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I don't post too often but was hoping for some suggestions. I currently have a fully cycled 75 gallon (48"), with inert play sand substrate and various large natural non-calcium based rock formations for decor. No plants, and I also lack a light hood but the tank has a glass top and is decently well lit from room lighting. I will hopefully be building a matching light hood to match the cabinet the tank rests on. Water parameters: temp 79 degrees, Ph: 8.0, ammonia: 0, Nitrite: 0, Nitrate: 15ppm. Eheim 2026 filter with two large airstones for additional circulation. After re-homing the tank's former inhabitants, I purchased two quarter sized baby angel fish, and one featherfin catfish. This was about a week ago. The catfish is eating like a pig, constantly rummaging about his caves, and is overall appearing very healthy and vibrant. Unfortunately though, I woke yesterday to find both angelfish dying, and by lunch time dead. They were motionless with labored breathing on the bottom and when prodded with a turkey baster they just kind of aimlessly drifted and tumbled about with the current. No white spots or signs of infection. Within a couple hours of noticing them in that state, they were no longer breathing.

My water quality was good and they were acclimated over the course of an hour using drip method. I've been keeping fish for a while, and while I am by no means an expert, I cannot figure out what I did wrong. Perhaps angelfish were just alot more delicate than I anticipated they would be. I've kept oscars, bettas, tetras, and guppies (not all in the same tank of course) in the past and never had any deaths like this.

At any rate. I've replaced them with a small school of 7 tiger barbs, about dime sized or smaller. The catfish is doing fine as well. I also put 6 male guppies in from another tank of mine to avoid going through a filter crash/re-cycle. I know that the guppies may end up being harassed by the tiger barbs, but so far they've been quick and if it becomes problematic, I have somewhere else to put them. I'm wondering if anyone has any suggestions on what would fill out the tank with lots of movement and color, but can tolerate my higher ph. I like alot of different types of tetras but I understand that they have widely different water preferences. Also, any ideas on what could have caused the angelfish to die so suddenly?
 
Bump for the lfs getting a new shipment in tomorrow morning and hopefully stopping by and taking home something.
 
some corys for them bottom would be nice, as they are always active.
some rams would be nice and bright.
glass cats might look nice also.
some gourams could be nice and bright
a big shoal of neons would be stunning.

i am not sure on the angels :sad:
 
I don't think you have to give up on the angels. Maybe it was just a weak batch of fish. Angels are prolifically bred and there are no doubt some very weak strains or individuals.

The only thing I can think of that you may want to keep and eye on is oxygen in the tank. Don't know how deep the tank is but last year with my new deep tank I lost some angels and I think that it was due to low oxygen. I put an airstone in and revived the other fish. Over time the tank stabilized and I have a happy spawning pair of angels and I don't need an airstone anymore.
 
Personally, I think you dropped on an unfortunate weak set of angels. You could either get a number of cories as fishy55599 has suggested but you could also get some nicely coloured gouramis.
 
Thanks for the replies. I have wanted to get a shoal of neon tetras, but being such finicky fish, I have had my fill of them. They seem to be hit or miss and will die fairly easily, even with good water quality. I also lack plants which I feel they go good with. I ended up picking up 10 zebra danios yesterday. They're quite lively and really have some speed. Yesterday I noticed the lfs had some Jewel Cichlids in stock and I really liked their coloring. I've read that they may work with my current stock being as my fish are fast enough to escape if needed, but semi-aggressive in nature. Does anyone have any experience with Jewel cichlids, and/or my current stock? Are they ok to keep alone or do you need multiples. I like the fact that they stay small. I've always been a fan of cichlids, but after parting ways with a 12" tiger oscar, I'm ready to keep with smaller fish.
 
i have a group of about 17 neon tetras. my water is harder than i would like (well water basically) so my Ph is right up there with yours. I've read that neons are delicate fish, but i must say that overall, i havent had a problem with them. they went through roughly a two week span of inactivity, but lately theyve been quite lively.

I had the same experience with two angels. one made it a day and the other one followed shortly after. At the time i only had one air stone in my 55 gal. i recently upped it to a 28" curtain on the back and another large circular air stone under a volcano i have. I must say, overall, all of my fish seem to be doing better.

I had a group of danios as well... but they dont seem to be doing so well. they get stuck in my filters alot :\ which is so strange being such strong swimmers... hopefully you dont have the same problems i did with them! they certainly are a lively bunch though!

good luck :)
 
i have a group of about 17 neon tetras. my water is harder than i would like (well water basically) so my Ph is right up there with yours. I've read that neons are delicate fish, but i must say that overall, i havent had a problem with them. they went through roughly a two week span of inactivity, but lately theyve been quite lively.

I had the same experience with two angels. one made it a day and the other one followed shortly after. At the time i only had one air stone in my 55 gal. i recently upped it to a 28" curtain on the back and another large circular air stone under a volcano i have. I must say, overall, all of my fish seem to be doing better.

I had a group of danios as well... but they dont seem to be doing so well. they get stuck in my filters alot :\ which is so strange being such strong swimmers... hopefully you dont have the same problems i did with them! they certainly are a lively bunch though!

good luck :)

I'm planning to stock 12 neons in my new 125L tank, hopefully I'm going to have the same luck as you with them! :D
 
i have a group of about 17 neon tetras. my water is harder than i would like (well water basically) so my Ph is right up there with yours. I've read that neons are delicate fish, but i must say that overall, i havent had a problem with them. they went through roughly a two week span of inactivity, but lately theyve been quite lively.

I had the same experience with two angels. one made it a day and the other one followed shortly after. At the time i only had one air stone in my 55 gal. i recently upped it to a 28" curtain on the back and another large circular air stone under a volcano i have. I must say, overall, all of my
fish seem to be doing better.

I had a group of danios as well... but they dont seem to be doing so well. they get stuck in my filters alot :\ which is so strange being such strong swimmers... hopefully you dont have the same problems i did with them! they certainly are a lively bunch though!

good luck :)

Interesting. Well as usual, fish take some time to adjust to new tank mates. Two days after adding the danios, my tiger barbs are hiding in caves quite a bit. For such tough fish they sure are intimidated by the much faster moving danios. I'll give it a couple weeks before adding anything else to let them adjust to the current population. The Guppies and danios can't tell each other apart and are all schooling together.
 
some corys for them bottom would be nice, as they are always active.
Not a good idea. Corys are air breathers and weak swimmers and so need a shallow tank and 75G may be too tall

really? mine dart right up there so quickly :huh:
But you have a 125cm tank which is quite shallow. A 75 gallon is a different story... I forgot this bit of info but I read somewhere that tanks with corys in them should be **cm high.
 
Here it is:
In deep tanks, small Corydoras may struggle to reach the surface. In a plain aquarium, 45 cm may be taken as a safe depth of water for medium- to large-sized species like Corydoras panda and Corydoras aeneus. Smaller species, like Corydoras hastatus, shouldn't really be kept at more than 30 cm depth. In deeper tanks, it's generally recommended you go with Brochis rather than Corydoras spp; Brochis are altogether stronger swimmers and naturally come from relatively deep waters. Corydoras are very much shallow water fish that inhabit creeks and streams rather than rivers.
 
And my 125L tank is 45cm deep, get in! :hyper:
 

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