10 Gallon Tank + Danio Problems

[lavapeanut]

hello, everyone. I have a 24"x 15"x 18" tank. (So that's about 10 gallon water there )

How many more fish I can still buy to put into the fish tank? I have put 5 zebra danio and 1 leopard danio inside the tank 28 hours ago. (the N-cycle ready, been waited for 2 weeks with plants inside there.)

My dreams 5 zebra danio, 2 leopard danio, 3 cleaner fish (I dont know what they are) and maybe 2-3 more fish that I haven't decided yet...

Those 5 zebra danio and the leopard danio love to bite each others' fins. 2 zebra danio fins are not looking good now.... What should I do? I did look at some other posts here about zebra danio bites fins, still I am worry about those 2 zebra danio fins might get worse with more chasing by others danio....

any suggestion?

 

[WILDER]

Can you post water stats in ammonia,nitrite,nitrate,and ph.

 

[lavapeanut]

Wilder you got me... I shouldn't say it's ready when I don't know ammonia,nitrite,nitrate stats... (Have heard if we let the water getting filtered and have some water from other fish tank, and let it stay there for 2 weeks + if plants planted inside the tank, the N-cycle will be okay...) Promise will head off to fish shop tomorrow and buy those test kits. PH value is 6.2 though.

 

[WILDER]

It's that if water quality isn't good it won' help the healing of the fins, plus if the tank stats are not good, won't help the fish be in the best of moods, please do and post back the results, if the fins are bad add some melafix, good luck.

 

[The-Wolf]

IMEO

10 Gallon Tank + Danio Problem

is your problem.

Danios are far too active to be housed in 10g tanks

 

[lavapeanut]

Thanks wilder, for telling me those things. will do those as soon as possible ( 6 hours to wait for shop opens)

The wolf, yeah I knew before I post here I am the one to blame for those 2 danio problem. I never knew they can't be put in 10 gallon tank.... saw there were at least 20 zebra danio and 10 leopard danio in a (around) 20 gallon tank in the fish shop. *sigh* different contries different styles to keep fishes inside fish shops that leads to poor fishes-life-span ...

Did look at books and a lot of different fish forum (not english one) on world wide web still leads to this situation fish shops in Macau *sigh*

Knew zebra danio will be happier in a group of 6 that's why I bought 6, but the shop owner told me the dots one are also zebra danio... so it ended up with 5 zebra 1 leopard danio sitution...

 

[Mr.September15]

I kinda have the same problem with my 10gallon tank but without the danios, I have some guppies in there... But im hoping to get a school of neon tetras maybe 5 and 2 cories. I still am looking for one of those fish that clean the glass but dont grow too much. I want a really really small algae cleaner maybe one.

 

[WILDER]

My plec didn't get on with the corys so you might wan't to rethink that, neon tetra's are nice looking fish but once they feel safe in the tank they are rather boring i'm afraid, if you like active fish.

 

[lavapeanut]

The wolf, May I ask what size of fish tank is situable for danio?

If this 10 gallon tank is so packed already, will just ask in forum and give all of them away... they like chasing each other and bite others' fins but at least it's their characteristic ? it's 4:58am here. They are all quiet down due to the light source here is weak (all light switched off except this computer's monitor).

I saw in the fish shop those zebra danio are not biting each other fins and quite 'still' (not moving in great movement) as I've said there are at least 20 zebra danio 10 leopard danio as well as 20 more other fishes together (tiger barbs are what I remember and surely 1-2 more types of fishes) in 20 gallon tank. Does that means the fish shop isn't good at all?

Thanks for taking times reply + looking at my questions

 

[hives]

ive got 6 zebras danios and 6 neon tetras all living happily together... thing with danios, at first they seem a bit aggresive but after a while there ok.. i found danios love to swin against the current of an internal filter which keeps them active also get lots of rocks and places for them to explore.. but in my case the neons did the trick there not as aggresive if neons are about. i say no more than 6 danios to every 10g




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10g tank
15 watt tube light
hydor k10 internal filter
fluval 1 internal filter
heater
6 zebra danios
6 neon tetras
lots of rocks!

 

[The-Wolf]

The wolf, May I ask what size of fish tank is situable for danio?

although 24" is the absoloute min tank length I recomend
the gallonage is also important.
I would not keep ZD's in anything less than 15 gal.

you tank is suitable for glowlights & dwarfs but not other danios.

As for shops
the filter systems used there are far superiour to anything we can have at home without spending shead loads of money. Also the fish turnover is quite fast, so the fish are not in their tanks too long.
Also many shops are in it for the money and don't give a hoot about the wealfare of the fish.
when taking advice from someone selling you stuff, take it with a pinch of salt and get a second opinion.
Most salesman will tell you what you want to hear.

I have seen ZD's kept in too small a tank and in too small a group, and they have led to one alpha fish killing all other tank mates. They may be small but they can pack a big punch.

 

[Silverlady]

He said his tank is 24+15+18.is this 10 Gallons.I dont know much about tank sizes,but shouldnt this hold more water then that.

 

[emma12321]

From your measurements its more like 20 gallons. my 24x12x15 tanks hold 15uk gallons.

Emma

 

[lavapeanut]

Hello thanks for all your helps. Those 5 zebra danio and the only leopard danio are quite peaceful in the tank (except when food being fed, the leopard danio bites other danio fighting for food, she ate the most fish food everytime since what she has been doing with others danios...) The weakest zebra danio( with little fins damage) are thin maybe due to he is a male(?) I am sure he ate food though.

Wilder - I bought test kits for NO2, NO3 and Ammonia.
Ammonia: 0.2-0.3 mg/L
NO2: 0.15-0.2 mg/L
NO3: 6 mg/L (update: man, I've put this 0.6 mg/L when i first typed this...)

Are they alright with those approx. figures? I also took a photo with those liquids too.

One thing I couldn't understand for those colors are they (most of the time) not matching the color on those intrucstion sheets. So we need to approximate the figures with shown colors ourselves?

Hives- I have a bush of anubias barteri(of course some other bigger and small anubias which they dont care about those much), there are spaces they can enter there and chasing others through that anubias barteri. hehe... Yeah my danios seems enjoy swim against the current too.

The Wolf - thanks for all the helps and make me understand my mistakes. Next time I know what not to do with danio. Thanks once again. May I ask is that I shouldn't buy any more fishes/fish before those danios gone? Danios are lovely thought, even they are the fishes alone in my tank, I will be still happy

sliverlady- The reason I said 10 gallon because I dont want to fill the whole tank volume with waters. I leave 3 inches high around the tank's top in case some fish jump up and hopefully still won't hurt much with the lights. So acutal water volume is more like 24"x 15"x 14"/15"... Should have said this in the very beginning sorry but thanks for care about that as well

emma - 24x 12x 15 = 15 gallons? May you know what is the different between US gallon and UK gallon measurement? Thanks you too

Last but not least, sorry for my poor English, If there are any mistakes that make me looks bad, maybe could you PM to me and tell me what they are? Cheers

 

[The-Wolf]

May I ask is that I shouldn't buy any more fishes/fish before those danios gone? Danios are lovely thought, even they are the fishes alone in my tank, I will be still happy

You would be able to have more danios
there are 64 recognised species available and most are suitable to keep together
If it were me I would consider adding glowlights D.choprae, dwarfs D.nigrofasciatus
or Danio Sp Burma; all can be found on my website.
you will be able to have some bottom feeders like the smaller corydoras species
C.hastatus, C.habrosus, C.pygmaeus, C.panda (note; Pandas are very senastive and hard to keep).
and once the tank is matured (at least 3 months old) you should be able to add otos ottocinclus affinis

HTH