White Spot

[Noahs ark6]

Hi.

I have diagnosed one of my fish with white spot, however, it's realy affected him, his tail is messed up and he wont eat. I was wondering if there is a way to treat white spot without using medications. I think i heard something about raising the ater temperature for a few hours?

Thanks for you're help

 

[KittyKat]

Whitespot doesn't have anything to do with tails. Also, raising temperature without adding medication would only make the whitespot a lot worse, because the higher temperature will speed up the rate at which it multiplies. Please post more details (and a photo): http/www.fishforums.net/index.php?/topic/2330-please-read-before-posting-to-emergency-section/

It sounds like finrot, search for some images to compare.

At any rate, a few large, temperature matched water changes will do more good than harm.

 

[Noahs ark6]

Whitespot doesn't have anything to do with tails. Also, raising temperature without adding medication would only make the whitespot a lot worse, because the higher temperature will speed up the rate at which it multiplies. Please post more details (and a photo): http/www.fishforums.net/index.php?/topic/2330-please-read-before-posting-to-emergency-section/

It sounds like finrot, search for some images to compare.

At any rate, a few large, temperature matched water changes will do more good than harm.

it definately has white spot as, well, it has alot of white spots, it may have white spot in conjunction with fin rot though, how do you treat fin rot, as i have never had to deal with this disease thnks

1. Water parameters. (ammonia, nitrate, nitrite, PH, temp', Hardness etc)---
Ammonia(No test so not sure) Nitrate-10 nitrite-0 ph-7.5 hardness-8od
2. A full description of the fishes symptoms.--- small white spots on all of its tails and head. rotting tails
3. How often you do water changes and how much.---35% weekly
4. Any chemicals and treatments you add to the water.---dechlorinator, sera toxivec, liquid plant fertiliser
5. What tank mates are in the tank.--- few snails,5 neons
6. Tank size.---50ltrs
7. Finally Have you recently added any new fish?---no

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Tank size--above
pH--above
ammonia--above
nitrite--above
nitrate--above
kH--6od
gH--above
tank temp--26oc

Fish Symptoms (include full description including lesion, color, location, fish behavior)--symptoms above, fish seems distressed and very unhappy

Volume and Frequency of water changes--above

Chemical Additives or Media in your tank: ---bio balls in filter and active carbon

Tank inhabitants--above

Recent additions to your tank (living or decoration)--none

Exposure to chemicals--dechlorinater, sera toxivec. liquid fertiliser.

Digital photo (include if possible)--sorry, not possible

 

[karin]

Check my signature for two good pieces on ich including the salt/heat treatment which some swear by but did not work for me. You may have to remove your snails for any treatment natural or otherwise.

 

[KittyKat]

Increase water changes with dechlorinated, temperature matched water (say, 50% for a couple of days), then treat the whitespot with a decent medication (check that it won't affect the snails). After you complete the ich treatment, do a large water change, then treat with an anti-fungal/bacterial medication, which will get the finrot (I use eSHa 2000).

 

[Noahs ark6]

Increase water changes with dechlorinated, temperature matched water (say, 50% for a couple of days), then treat the whitespot with a decent medication (check that it won't affect the snails). After you complete the ich treatment, do a large water change, then treat with an anti-fungal/bacterial medication, which will get the finrot (I use eSHa 2000).

hi, thanks for you're quick response and helpfull information. unfortunately it was too late and he died this evening, thanks for the help.

 

[fluttermoth]

I think you should be doing a full range of tests and some big water changes + a general clean up. Whitespot shouldn't kill otherwise healthy fish and the fin rot is also a worry; both diseases are, 9 times out of 10, due to poor water quality.

 

[Noahs ark6]

I think you should be doing a full range of tests and some big water changes + a general clean up. Whitespot shouldn't kill otherwise healthy fish and the fin rot is also a worry; both diseases are, 9 times out of 10, due to poor water quality.

nitrate and nitrite are very good, don't have an ammonia test though, the water is good quality. I'm going to up the weekly water changes to 40%.
It would be hard to do a "general cleanup", because everything is spotless. It was a realy severe case, nearl his entire body was covered, it's quite worrying

 

[fluttermoth]

Well; I'll keep my fingers crossed for you not to have any more trouble; these things happen to us all sometimes.

 

[KittyKat]

Increase water changes with dechlorinated, temperature matched water (say, 50% for a couple of days), then treat the whitespot with a decent medication (check that it won't affect the snails). After you complete the ich treatment, do a large water change, then treat with an anti-fungal/bacterial medication, which will get the finrot (I use eSHa 2000).

hi, thanks for you're quick response and helpfull information. unfortunately it was too late and he died this evening, thanks for the help.

If it had whitespot, the parasite is still in the water and you may still need to treat for it. A large water change now will decrease the likelihood of needing to treat because you would be removing any free-swimming parasites which are in the water.

 

[Noahs ark6]

Increase water changes with dechlorinated, temperature matched water (say, 50% for a couple of days), then treat the whitespot with a decent medication (check that it won't affect the snails). After you complete the ich treatment, do a large water change, then treat with an anti-fungal/bacterial medication, which will get the finrot (I use eSHa 2000).

hi, thanks for you're quick response and helpfull information. unfortunately it was too late and he died this evening, thanks for the help.

If it had whitespot, the parasite is still in the water and you may still need to treat for it. A large water change now will decrease the likelihood of needing to treat because you would be removing any free-swimming parasites which are in the water.

i have been doing largeish water changes for the past few days, i always try to steer away from medications and chemicals, apart from dechlorinater. thanks for all your help everyone

 

[KittyKat]

If it had whitespot, the parasite is still in the water and you may still need to treat for it. A large water change now will decrease the likelihood of needing to treat because you would be removing any free-swimming parasites which are in the water.

i have been doing largeish water changes for the past few days, i always try to steer away from medications and chemicals, apart from dechlorinater. thanks for all your help everyone

Good, the water changes will definitely help with everything. I can see why you're trying to avoid medication, and it is best to not use it in most cases, if it can be avoided. On the other hand, without medication, survival chances for whitespot (and a few others) are very low unless they are medicated against at first sign.