What Kind Of Angel Have I Got?

[Kevstir]

Hi guys, just got me a couple of Angelfish , the shop said they were diamond Angels is this right??

My girlfriend has been at me to get some Angels for ages but if never really been that keen on them until i seen these chaps, there by far the best Angels iv seen ( in my opinion )

This is only pictures of one, i got him/her on Sunday and took these pics when i got home (its stripes have coloured up a lot better now), i liked it that much i went back yesterday and bought another, i paid £7.50 each for them, is that about right??

sorry about the quality of some of the pics i took them with my phone..

Kev

 

[Straydum]

it resembles a Pterophyllum scalare. a wild species. which i HIGHLY doubt so cause they're really really rare, with all the inbreeding these days.

probably a common silver. some call them stripped.

 

[DiscusKeeper403]

It's not wild. Its a pearl scale.

 

[parker313]

Other than altums, all angelfish are scalare.

The difference in angelfish coloring is due to careful breeding and genetics. The silver (with stripes, as yours has) is the phenotype that is seen in the wild, but yours is pearlscale, so it would be silver pearlscale.

For some great reading on angelfish genetics, check out the articles written by Joanne Norton for Freshwater and Marine Aquarium. You can read them here, at The Angelfish Society.

 

[DiscusKeeper403]

Other than altums, all angelfish are scalare.

The difference in angelfish coloring is due to careful breeding and genetics. The silver (with stripes, as yours has) is the phenotype that is seen in the wild, but yours is pearlscale, so it would be silver pearlscale.

For some great reading on angelfish genetics, check out the articles written by Joanne Norton for Freshwater and Marine Aquarium. You can read them here, at The Angelfish Society.

Wrong. Leopoldi my friend...

 

[Kevstir]

thanks guys

see in the first pic you can see the 2 long spines coming from its tail, the one i got yesterday only has 1 on the bottom of its tail, do you think the top one will grow back if its been nipped off??

Kev

 

[parker313]

Other than altums, all angelfish are scalare.

The difference in angelfish coloring is due to careful breeding and genetics. The silver (with stripes, as yours has) is the phenotype that is seen in the wild, but yours is pearlscale, so it would be silver pearlscale.

For some great reading on angelfish genetics, check out the articles written by Joanne Norton for Freshwater and Marine Aquarium. You can read them here, at The Angelfish Society.

Wrong. Leopoldi my friend...

Yeah, b/c those are *so* common in pet stores these days

Point taken, but the point I was trying to make is that almost every angelfish sold in fish/pet stores is scalare - there is no difference b/n scalare/wild and "common" angelfish, other than color variations and mutations. Marble, koi, half black, zebra, blushers, etc etc are all scalare.

Kev - Yes, if your water is good and you aren't keeping your angels with any fin nippers, the fins should heal themselves. Try some melafix.

 

[RadaR]

it resembles a Pterophyllum scalare. a wild species. which i HIGHLY doubt so cause they're really really rare, with all the inbreeding these days.

probably a common silver. some call them stripped.

Yeah. I know exactly what you mean

 

[DiscusKeeper403]

Other than altums, all angelfish are scalare.

The difference in angelfish coloring is due to careful breeding and genetics. The silver (with stripes, as yours has) is the phenotype that is seen in the wild, but yours is pearlscale, so it would be silver pearlscale.

For some great reading on angelfish genetics, check out the articles written by Joanne Norton for Freshwater and Marine Aquarium. You can read them here, at The Angelfish Society.

Wrong. Leopoldi my friend...

Yeah, b/c those are *so* common in pet stores these days

Point taken, but the point I was trying to make is that almost every angelfish sold in fish/pet stores is scalare - there is no difference b/n scalare/wild and "common" angelfish, other than color variations and mutations. Marble, koi, half black, zebra, blushers, etc etc are all scalare.

Kev - Yes, if your water is good and you aren't keeping your angels with any fin nippers, the fins should heal themselves. Try some melafix.

Okay Okay I see what you mean. Although, altum aren't very common...

 

[ArauraDiscus]

Leopoldi and Scalare have virtually no noticable differences anyway. Many of our scalares could be Leopoldis. They are almost identical. The top pic looks a lot like an altum, but the rest show that it is infact a scalare. The vertical top to low fins are indicitave of altums like in the top pic.

 

[parker313]

Point taken, but the point I was trying to make is that almost every angelfish sold in fish/pet stores is scalare - there is no difference b/n scalare/wild and "common" angelfish, other than color variations and mutations. Marble, koi, half black, zebra, blushers, etc etc are all scalare.

Kev - Yes, if your water is good and you aren't keeping your angels with any fin nippers, the fins should heal themselves. Try some melafix.

Okay Okay I see what you mean. Although, altum aren't very common...

I know, that's what I said! I was originally posting that virtually all angelfish are scalare in response to Straydum, who said this:

it resembles a Pterophyllum scalare. a wild species. which i HIGHLY doubt so cause they're really really rare, with all the inbreeding these days.

probably a common silver. some call them stripped.

Straydum said that scalare is a wild species and is rare and I was disputing that.

 

[RadaR]

The true Scalare is wild and very rare to come across. The Angelfish we come across usually is Scalare but it's different due to so many years of colour variation and in-breeding. Their body structure actually looks quite different. Neal Monks, who posts mainly on the oddball and brackish forum, wrote an entire article about it in Practical Fishkeeping Mag here in the UK.

 

[Straydum]

yeap. a fully wild angel would be so awesome. i heard they're much more hardy and tend to get bigger, pass the 4 or 5" range. i remembered seeing a tank with a group of wild angels in some book. i couldnt help but stare.

 

[Amina]

cute lil girl ya got there ...look alot like mone..only she was $20.00 >.<

 

[RadaR]

How do you know it is a girl?