WALMART, WALMART, WALMART........

[Captain Canuck]

Unfortunately, I have shopped there three times in my life and feel dirty afterward every time.

I wish Silver the best on luck on this endeavor and hope to someday see Walmart crumble.

for all those people that shop at walmart for other things then fish, you're a ---. You feeling dirty is just the stereotype in your head talking. Please don't bring that rubbish here

I don't have time to dignify a response to a person like you, bstier.
Congratulations on having the maturity of a 10 year old.

 

[bstier]

it had nothing to do with his edit: sexual orientation. If it were any other forum there would have been a lot more words then that. I know it is a friendly forum and I always have been, and I respect everyone here, but I took that feeling dirty thing to heart because I shop there. And just about everyone else I know shops there too. It seems like everyone says bring down walmart bring down walmart, but do you honestly realize what would happen if that were so? This is and ongoing and pointless argument. You werent arguing about walmarts fish section, you were targeting walmart and their customers as a whole. I shop there, and im not dirty. ..

Have you ever thought of what would happen if walmart were to close? 4.8 catrillionbillionmillion jobs...gone

 

[bkk_group]

it had nothing to do with his gender. If it were any other forum there would have been a lot more words then that. I know it is a friendly forum and I always have been, and I respect everyone here, but I took that feeling dirty thing to heart because I shop there. And just about everyone else I know shops there too. It seems like everyone says bring down walmart bring down walmart, but do you honestly realize what would happen if that were so? This is and ongoing and pointless argument. You werent arguing about walmarts fish section, you were targeting walmart and their customers as a whole. I shop there, and im not dirty. ..

i didn't say his "gender" i said sexual orientation. you called him a "fag" didn't you? what does that have to do with anything anyways? any credibility on your part goes right out the window and you reveal a much uglier side of yourself when you feel the need to resort to such hateful name calling. man, i am soo tired of this walmart debate, i'm throwing up my arms and saying "whatever". feel free to shop there if it makes you feel better, hope you find a great deal on whatever you feel the need to buy when you shop there too. you must be their biggest fan, good for you. but, do you really think they as a corporation care about you at all?

 

[silver]

Well said BKK group.........

Captain Canuck hardly meant anything by that dirty feeling thing. He/she was not implying that all the people who shop there are dirty. It was meant about him/herself, no one else. I value Canuck's opinion and not just because I agree but because it was honest and wasn't meant to hurt anyone elses feelings. The practice that Walmart keeps with it's fish reflects greatly on them as a whole.

Funny thing to mention. My good friend and sister-in-law shops at Walmart evey Friday and I just got off the phone with her. She LOVES Wally World, by the way, and she informed me (because I told her of my debate here) that there were 12, YES 12 Oscars all about 6 inches in length in a 20 gallon tank. Now explain that to me as being just a little negligence!!!!!!!!! HELLO!!!!! . Whatever people!!!!!!!!

I think me and my "ACITIVIST" self will trot on down there tomorrow and start some picture taking . Man, I am sooooo evil,.....HA HA HA HA!!!! sama:



Silver


PS...not too further push this topic elsewhere but there may be 40 bazillion jobs lost, but there would be a HUGE margin of opportunity for the small businesses to start booming, in turn hiring those 40 gazillionoids elsewhere and on more personal terms with room for growth, not minimum wage for 10 years.

 

[bstier]

i dont expect them to, how could they. And it wasnt hatefull name calling. I just wanted to make sure he knew that i took that to offense.

 

[silver]

Well I'm SURE he knows........

 

[CFC]

All i can say is thank god we dont have a walmart in England, here the only places that sell fish are fish shops and some pet stores. The selling of any livestock should be left to specialist stores with staff/owners who are specialists in what they are selling, i would not want to buy a fish/cat/dog/hamster from a furniture sales person.

and just to let you all know this thread is being monitered by the moderating team and will be shut and/or removed if it gets out of hand.

Thanks CFC

 

[Bol]

My apologies, Silver, on one point.

You did mention you were concerned with the fish ... once. Change never to once. My bad.

YES, slandering ME because that's what this Bol person is doing

How so? I can whip out definitions, too.

slan.der

1 ) Law. Oral communication of false statements injurious to a person's reputation.
2) A false and malicious statement or report about someone.

What false statements did I post? Other than the missed total I mentioned at the top of this one? Point out some false statements, and I'll most likely apologize for them. (And, just to be pre-emptive, I don't think that an opinion, clearly declared as such, with an explanation of how that opinion was formed, including the data it was based on, would be considered a "false statement" or "slander". Your opinion, of course, could vary).

Man, I sure got my words picked apart and torn apart and put all back together to look like an A$$,

Picked apart? Were any of the quotes taken out of context? Was there a large omission of contrary evidence in this thread?

As a side note, I'm hesitant to bring this up, but ...

Bol and I have had a long debate about this and niether one of US started name-calling yet! Although, we've both probably felt like it 2 dozen times!!

Nah, I'm not upset. Don't think anyone's a "bad person". 'Course, I'm not the one saying ..."You are one of those Wally World Gurus that will stand by there Fish Killing Mega-Super-Gigantic Store no matter what." hehe


You may note that the opinion I gave at the end of my last post did not say that I thought you didn't care about fish; I said that it was my opinion that you had little desire to see Wal-Mart improve its fish-keeping policies -- that your main goal was to see Wal-Mart "hurt". That is, it seems to me you're "doing the right thing for the wrong reasons".

I still have to stand by that opinion, based on the data available. To gain more data, and for possible support of my opinion, I asked my final question, which (as before) you managed to avoid:

If Wal-Mart "cleaned up" their act tomorrow, and had pristine fish tanks, would you feel satisfied?

I'd be very interested to hear the answer to that simple question.

Seems that if the answer is "no", then my theory is correct.

If the answer is "yes", then you seem to contradict many of your other statements (in particular, the five middle ones I quoted in my last reply).

 

[silver]

Actually Bol, yes I would be satisfied, but I have to honestly say that I still wouldn't buy any fish from Walmart because I make it a practice not to buy anything there.

You see,
There is the Super-Chain store "bad for the economy side" and there's the "I feel so bad for those poor fish" side. I feel both of those emotions and whether or not I am letting one side creep onto the other is sort uncontrolable. You may think that is weak, but it is honest. I may surely be doing so blindly, but I know exactly how I feel about the fish practices and I think it would actually be fun and interesting to make a site about it. A site may influence some people from buying fish at Walmart and maybe influence others from shopping at Walmart alltogether. I can't say the latter of the two would hurt my feelings any, of course it wouldn't and I'd be lying if I said it would.

I never claimed to like Walmart, this you know, and I never claimed to ONLY care about the fish, but I have said that I HATE what Walmart is doing to the economy and I have said that I APPALL the way they keep thier fish. What you have said, honestly, is that I don't care about the fish at all and I am a Walmart "activist". Well, I can say that I've never been called an activist before and I think if you knew me a little better you'd probably laugh at that too but of course you don't know me from Adam.

If Walmart cleaned up there act tomorrow I would be very pleased that they are at least doing something right and I wouldn't waste my precious time on a site at all. Like I said before, I still wouldn't buy fish from them because of thier reputation, but wouldn't b*tch about it anymore, why would I. No one mentions Jack in the Box's little Ecoli problem because they have strived VERY hard in cooking thier meet perfectly. I am proud of them, although a vegetarian.

You act as though the two cannot coincide with each other and if they do, then Fire the Pistols. I don't think it is possible for a person who loves and cares for fish and one that does NOT respect Walmart to not have that line crossed several times.

And saying that you are a Walmart Guru (A teacher and guide in philosophical matters) which is exactly how you act, is hardly different then calling me an activist that makes activism look bad. The context of how you said it is the context of how I said what I did. No difference at all. If that's as bad as it got then no harm done.

But, believe what you will because it's really no skin off my teeth You are just a person with an opinion that differs from my own. I can live with this, can YOU?

Also, False statements from you... maybe not, I don't know and I'm not going to go through 2 hours of searching for any, but reputation yes. This is how I honestly feel. I know the truth about how I feel and you do not. You can inerpret things how you wish but I have one thing over you at all times. I am the person inside this body that is typing these words...and I know how this person feels and thinks.....you do not and you do not have the power to ever know this. This is what makes us all INDIVIDUALS. You have the wrong ideas about several things and will probably never know how trully wrong you are because you are pig-headedly believing one thing because of how you interpret some of the things I have said. Some of the things that I've mentioned I feel very little emotion on and they are just words, but you interpret them TOTALLY different and think they are the MOST IMPORTANT points of my view, when in reality they are not. But again, you can never know this because you do not live inside of my head, as I don't yours.


Silver

 

[JoKeR]

STOP THIS MADNESS

 

[Bol]

It's not madness, 55, it's discussion.

Silver,

Thanks for answering the question.


I was just trying to find out how you felt, and after you answered those two questions, I think that's been accomplished.

Our conclusions regarding your primary motive still differ, as I explained in my last post (primary, that is -- I do agree that motives certainly don't need to be mutually exclusive), but that's of no matter. Certainly nothing beneficial would result from debating it, in my opinion.

By the way, there's no reason to think of "activist" as a dirty word, or insult. An activist is merely one who takes direct, sometimes confrontational, action, which seems to describe your proposed plan. If a person merely told a grocery manager that they thought their produce was less than fresh, that would be "activism", too.

 

[silver]

Alrighty then.......it's settled,

A difference of opinion can be discussed until blue in the face by both parties but it will most likely boil down to being: Still a difference in opinion, point of view and hey lets throw religion and polotics in there to. But have no fear fellow fish keepers:

Peace still exists between members here on "The Friendliest Forum Around"


Silver