Using Vinegar

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I just did an experiment using vinegar to lower my ph from 7.7 to 7. and I was wondering has anyone else here used it to lower ph in there aquarium and not have any adverse affects from it.
I know you can use other acids but some of them lower the oxygen leval or create an algea bloom so it would be neat if I could use a household item to safely lower ph
 
I been using apple cider vinegar to lower the PH for many years now. the 4 qt. bottle might well last your whole life. be very carefully of how much you use. because it do not take much. you should have a good PH test kit close by ,so you can test the water after who put it in.
 
Wow! Thank God, I would love to make my water neutral or acidic! Everyone says it is hard (to make it acidic), but now..Vinegar!..Cheap, Readily Available!

How much do you use per gallon or liter to lower like 0.1 or any other measurment?

Anything special you have to do? Or do you just dump the water with dissolved vinegar in the tank?
 
In most tanks lowering pH is not just a simple matter of adding an acid. The explanation below details why:

Raising and Lowering pH
One can raise or lower pH by adding chemicals. Because of buffering, however, the process is difficult to get right. Increasing or decreasing the pH (in a stable way) actually involves changing the KH. The most common approach is to add a buffer (in the previous section) whose equilibrium holds the pH at the desired value.
Muriatic (hydrochloric) acid can be used to reduce pH. Note that the exact quantity needed depends on the water's buffering capacity. In effect, you add enough acid to use up all the buffering capacity. Once this has been done, decreasing the pH is easy. However, it should be noted that the resultant lower-pH water has much less KH buffering than it did before, making it more susceptible to pH swings when (for instance) nitrate levels rise. Warning: It goes without saying that acids are VERY dangerous! Do not use this approach unless you know what you are doing, and you should treat the water BEFORE adding it to the aquarium.

Products such as ``pH-Down'' are often based on a phosphoric acid buffer. Phosphoric acid tends to keep the pH at roughly 6.5, depending on how much you use. Unfortunately, use of phosphoric acid has the BIG side effect of raising the phosphate level in your tank, stimulating algae growth. It is difficult to control algae growth in a tank with elevated phosphate levels. The only advantage over hydrochloric acid is that pH will be somewhat better buffered at its lower value.

One safe way to lower pH WITHOUT adjusting KH is to bubble CO2 (carbon dioxide) through the tank. The CO2 dissolves in water, and some of it forms carbonic acid. The formation of acid lowers the pH. Of course, in order for this approach to be practical, a steady source of CO2 bubbles (e.g. a CO2 tank) is needed to hold the pH in place. As soon as the CO2 is gone, the pH bounces back to its previous value. The high cost of a CO2 injection system precludes its use as a pH lowering technique in most aquariums (though see the PLANT FAQ for inexpensive do-it-yourself alternatives). CO2 injection systems are highly popular in heavily-planted tanks, because the additional CO2 stimulates plant growth.

This comes from F I N S : T h e F i s h I n f o r m a t i o n S e r v i c e
 
But if you keep doing doing water changes (once a week) with a low pH wouldn't the buffer not have a chance to make it alkaline again?
 
it is best ,if you try it in a 5 gallon tank with no fish first. in my 75 gallon tanks, i add 5 to 15 ml. just dump it in, your filter will do the rest. so you see it do not take much. unless you likes using man made stuff. i use my 75 gallon tank for my water changes. do not use white vinegar!! the only problem is your house may smell like vinegar. i been useing that for over 30 years now. did you every use baking soda in your tank? this is what they use before all this man made stuff.
 
Ugh! I hate the smell of Apple Cider Vinegar!!!!!

I have a 1 gallon 1 quart ice cream bucket, first I will add 1 ml, then 2ml, then so on until I reach the desired pH then multiply it by 6!
 
I filled a one gallon bucket with tap water and added 20ml of organic vinegar mixed with white and it lower from 7.7 to 7.0 istantly, my Kh is some where around 30ppm.

I tryed the same method and amount x 29 in my 29gal that only has a 10in pleco and the Ph droped from 7.7 to 7.0. The pleco seems fine, but iam going to try another test with a few guppies just to make sure it is completly safe.
 
i use white viniger to clean my hood from water deposits, is this bad? i have had no problems since doing this
 
I just have lots of bogwood in the tanks to lower ph, can't be bothered messing about adding stuff each water change. Plus the bogwood lowers ph gradually so doesn't shock the fish.

Emma :S
 
I usually put the vinegar in with the fish after they're fried and served with chips.




Like Emma says, best way to lower PH is with bogwood, and filtered peat.
 
i just said,what i do. and vinegar work great for me. some of the good fish books out there, tell you all about vinegar. white vinegar to clean your hood, good no problem. apple cider vinegar, is better than most things that you buy to do it. but that what i think, all i know, i been using it foe over 30 plus years now , with no ill affect.
 

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