I have two butterfly goldfish who prefer to float upside down evry day and night at the top of the aquarium this has been going on for seven months so it's not an illness but seems to be related to swallowing air bubbles feeding or not...I have changed out food and it has made no difference...I am getting ready to send my other fish out to the pond and it looks like these two will have to stay inside for the summer otherwise they'll be fish food for some other critter...any ideas? anyone else with this abnormality? Thanks
Upside Down Butterfly Goldfish
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Water stats would be good, and size of tank.
If the fish are upside down its swim bladder, are they bloated as well.
http
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If the fish are upside down its swim bladder, are they bloated as well.
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Sounds like they may have swimbladder. Try feeding some de-shelled cooked peas, mush them up. This should help with the swimbladder if that is what they have. You had the right idea with switching around foods. Do you feed pellets at all?
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Frozen peas are cooked, usually.
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Cooked as in you have to heat them up from being frozen...
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The fish has a swimbladder disorder, which can be caused by a variety of things.
Can you fill out the following info please;
Size of aquarium/pond -
Types of fish in it-
Number of fish and sizes -
Filtration used and how do you clean it and how often -
How much in the way of water changes and how often --
Do you dechlorinate the water -
What medications are you currently using or have recently used -
Recent test results for ammonia, nitrite, nitrate and ph both from the tap and tank-
What do you feed the fish and how much and often on average-
Anything else you need us to know -
The more info you can give us, the better we can help you- its important to get a clear picture of your exact situation as swimbladder disorders can be caused by numerous things.
ok the aquarium is 29 gallons...the pocket pond is about 60 gallons....the pond gets skimmed dailey and water changes once every two weeks unless the pond has an issue, the pond has a pond filter with double waterfalls and gets good aeration...the aquarium is cleaned once every two weeks as well...using a quiet filter...eight fish in aquarium and yes I realize it's marginal at best. the ph in the tank is good...I've had an ammonia problem once when I put the fish off a week but that was a lesson to be learned...now here's the problem the swimbladder fish one can get to the bottom for the peas..the other can't so I have to pull it out of the aquarium in to a non filtered holding bucket till I see if I can get him right side up....I am planning to use the epsom salt remedy posted as well 1 tsp to 4 gallons of water sound about right? I did use a sulfer medicine for a ulcer on one of my orandas but that was long after the fish went upside down and my oranda healed nicely...other than that I've had no trouble. The butterflies haven't been outside...the others have been outside and inside and weathered those changes easily.Frozen or cooked works either way.
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No i wouldn't advise using salt on goldfish. What types of fish and how large are in do you have in the aquarium? I would advise doing a water change once a week instead of fortnight, can you test the water for ammonia, nitrites and nitrates anbd post the exact stats here?
Swimbladder problems are most commonly caused by;
a. Bad consitipation in fish, as the guts try to pass the food they put a lot of strain on the swimbladder which can damage it.
b. An internal bacterial infection in the swimbladder.
c. Water quality issues, which can generally poisen and stress the fishes body, including the swimbladder.
Or even all of the above. So with treating the fish properly and correctly and prevent the problem coming back in the future, you need to find the root cause of the problem- treating the fish with salt is not advisable in my personal opinion.
Are you experiencing fish with swimbladder problems in both the pond and the aquarium? What is the fish stocking of the pond and is it an outdoor one (if it is, where do you live in the world/what sort of year round climate do you have)?
edit: also when you say you used a sulfer based med to treat the goldfish once, what brand of med was it? Sulfer is just very toxic to fish thats all.
Swimbladder problems are most commonly caused by;
a. Bad consitipation in fish, as the guts try to pass the food they put a lot of strain on the swimbladder which can damage it.
b. An internal bacterial infection in the swimbladder.
c. Water quality issues, which can generally poisen and stress the fishes body, including the swimbladder.
Or even all of the above. So with treating the fish properly and correctly and prevent the problem coming back in the future, you need to find the root cause of the problem- treating the fish with salt is not advisable in my personal opinion.
Are you experiencing fish with swimbladder problems in both the pond and the aquarium? What is the fish stocking of the pond and is it an outdoor one (if it is, where do you live in the world/what sort of year round climate do you have)?
edit: also when you say you used a sulfer based med to treat the goldfish once, what brand of med was it? Sulfer is just very toxic to fish thats all.
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