Ugh!

[irgod]

Hey! I have ich spreading around my tank, ive been treating for 2 weeks now, but it just keeps coming back!

I have a 30 gallon tank with the following:

2 bettas (female & male)
9 baby goldfish
3 gouramis (1 dwarf, 2 blue, one very sick...)
1 catfish (pleco)

2 of my fish have died... a dwarf gourami, and my mono sebae

My favourite fish, Joey, my male betta has a swollen head, and is very tired, and im freaking out... I have had him for over a year, and he is a very hyper, happy go lucky guy... I have no idea what to do hence i have NEVER had sick fish...

Recently buying 6 new fish, they had ich in them... it was horrible, and im getting very sick of treating it... The pet shop WILL PAY!!1

Anyways, i was wondering in ANYBODY could give me some help? Swollen head/gills, lots of rest... *sigh*

 

[WILDER]

Whitespot can cause bacterial infections.
Best to treat up to another week once spots have gone, some say even longer.
have you raised temp to 30, and increased aeration in the tank..

 

[fishyfreak]

Here's some good information I got recently, I haven't tried it yet due to time requirements but if my next attempt doesn't work then I will...

"Day 1) Water change that emphasizes gravel vac. to pick up any fallen Ich organisms. Add 1 teaspoon of salt per 5 gallons. Do this by dissolving the salt in some water and pouring it into the tank in small amounts over the course of the day. Start raising the temperature by 1*F per day. Increase the aeration by adding a bubbler, or lowering the water level a bit so the water returning from the filter makes a little splash.
Day 2) Another water change. Add enough salt to replace what you removed with the water change. If you removed 10 gallons of water, add 2 teaspoons. Mix this in with the new water as part of the water change. Then add another 1 teaspoon per 5 gallons, added slowly like yesterday. Continue raising the temperature. If the fish start to hang around only at the surface, or to gulp at the surface quit raising the temperature and drop it a degree or two.
Day 3) Another water change. Again, replace the salt that you remove with the water change: If you do a 10 gallon water change add 4 teaspoons of salt to the replacement water. Also, add another 1 teaspoon per 5 gallons over the course of the day.

Day 4 and beyond: Keep up the water changes, and just replace what salt is removed with water changes. The amount in there now is 1 tablespoon per 5 gallons.

Ich can be controlled with just water changes, (gravel vacs remove the fallen Ich before it can reproduce) but the report I saw about this was reporting the results in a bare bottom tank. The salt kills the single celled form that drifts in the water, looking for a host.
Raising the temperature increases the Ich metabolism and they fall off the fish faster. Ich can be cured at lower temperatures, it just takes longer. I do not know your fish will handle higher temperatures when they are already stressed from Ich."

Also, this much salt can be very hard on scaleless fish like Chinese algae eaters and catfish. Good luck and I hope you don't lose any more

 

[irgod]

I have raised the temp for my one fish covered in ich, keeping a light over it to keep it nice and warm... but the water changes are completely impossible for me... i live in the country, and living off a well with untreated water is no good, its over stocked with coppers, sulphur and all kinds of garbage like that, so not even my family drinks or uses it besides showering... SO i will just try and keep the water circulating with a filter...

i have put a bubble wall into my tank to up the oxygen... But it seems NOX-ICH or whatever is doing the trick im happy with the results of happier fish and they arent rubbing on the deco or going insane as much anymore! and Joey is okay for now, im just going to let him rest and stuff...

Anyways, thanks for the help more would be appreciated, oh and... is it possible to get a refund for a store that gives you sick fish?

 

[WILDER]

Good luck.

 

[fishyfreak]

I'm glad to hear it's working for you, the salt cure is very time consuming. As for the refund, it certainly wouldn't hurt to try, I bought some fish a couple weeks ago that infected my entire tank, it was through a very reputable store too.

 

[irgod]

Well if they refuse... im a pretty angry person... they wont like my wrath and besides, theres always threat of sueing >.<

 

[fishyfreak]

Well if they refuse... im a pretty angry person... they wont like my wrath and besides, theres always threat of sueing >.<

lol...I doubt you'd have to take it quite that far, a bit costly too, you know how many fish tanks you could buy with all those lawyer fees?! Any good business owner would gladly replace or refund a couple fish if it means keeping your business.

 

[irgod]

OKAY! so... now my male betta Joey is covered in ich, all my baby goldfish are dead, and my sick gourami is... suffering horribly...

I dont know what to do, NOX-ICH is failing me, my fish are perishing, and Im so pissed off i could just crush heads...

im doing my best to keep things clean, but its just not working... so i guess im going to restart my tank, quarentine each fish individually, and treat them while my aquarium balances itself out... This is so much BS!!1

Anyways, does anybody have some recemendations for some top of the line ich treatment?

 

[Amunet]

So sorry things don't seem to be working out.

When you restart the tank, pls don't put the male and female betta back into the tank together. You really shouldn't put a male in with any other betta.. male or female unless you want to breed them and even then, you have to read up alot about it and can't have them in the same tank after they've done their thing.
Some have had it work before, but it's definitely not recommended... just fyi.

Anywho... you said your male bettas head is swollen? Are his scales sticking out at all?
You might be dealing with a bacterial infection as well that the new fish could've brought in with them.

 

[irgod]

my male betta who she is joined with is a very well behaved and treats her as a 'freind' rather than a mate... other wise, yes i know my bettas, which is why she isnt with my hunter... but no, just his gills swollen, now he has ich >.<

and update... another dead fish... the very sick gourami passed away after a very big break out... it was horrible, and nothing was just fish, the spots were even on top of each other... ugh


now ive become ill... superb!